主题：【原创】我们的领袖，我们的军队 -- 晨枫
家园 您的地理知识哪里来的？ 离汶川县城不到70公里就是红原大草原？
我2006年从甘南走川西北到成都。某一天的路程是从九寨沟经松藩、茂县、汶川、都江堰到成都，坐了一天的车，花了约12个小时。这是没遇到任何塌方泥石流的情况，坐的是私人顺风车。
汶川向西约70公里是理县，汶川离西北方向的红原县城，直线距离约为300公里的样子，公路距离至少400公里。红原大草原就算比县城近，公路距离怎么也有300公里。
家园 2006 vs 1990 Do not compare the 2006 with 1990, as I said, the experience of me came from 1990s, after 2000, they country put a great deal of money into roads building in the Northwest Sichuan, which make a significant change and boost the travel buessiness. So, do not use your experience of no trafic in 2006 to compare with the situation of 1990 and the situation now, they are totally different thing.
What you want to say? The traffic of Wenchuan now is very good, then why the PLA stuck in roads?
I do made a mistake in the distance of Honhyuan to Wenchuan, I also went to there by car and I did not read map at that time, so I made a mistake. But that's not the point, the point here is to discuss the possibility to organize an army of horses and cattles for emergency transport to the isolated area. The area around Wenchuan is one of Sichuan's most popular travel regions, the local families in SongPan, Hongyuan, Lixian, Wenchuan.....,they raise large number of tamed horses to please the travelers, so, I just recommended that organized these resources is perhaps an option. Stick to the topic,please.
家园 前提错误，其他的就不必讨论了吧 您关于马队的想法，是建立在完全错误的前提之上。
时空距离都搞不清，就不必再讨论或指责军方的错误了。
另外，不喜欢躲在外国话里认错的方法。这何必呢？河友里英文好的多了去了。
家园 Calm down please I think you misunderstand me.
First, I did not doubt the efforts done by the government and the army this time. On the contrary, I am proud of them and totally suport them. The only purpose of my previous post is to provide some discussion topic and goodwill advices.
Second, I also do not like to type my post in English, but I am working in the company and there is no Chinese input. It is not no need for you to attack me on this point, really.
家园 红原到汶川虽然只有70公里，可地形差异是极大的 你要是之前有空去九寨沟的话，就会有足够的体会。
到了山里面还得靠人
家园 现在已经没有牲口运输队了。 藏民的牦牛除了牧民自家用的以外，都以成了肉畜和旅游照相用，马就更少了。
家园 确实很少运输队了，不过马是很多的 川藏滇交界的大部分旅游区，都有很庞大的马队，其实都是藏羌民各家自己的马。每天自己迁到旅游区的入口来，由管理处统一分派。我去过的几个地方停当地人说马匹数量很大，除了最旺的季节外每家都得轮流来，不是每天都可以来的。
组织马队最大的问题是这些马都属于各家各户，可能动员起来非常困难，各家住的又很远，也很难独立的来管理从各家抽调的马匹。所以紧急情况下难以在最短的时间里集结出发吧。
家园 那这次刚好是在草原附近 下次离草原有一段距离怎么办呢？平日没有地震的时候拿这些骡马干什么用呢？养兵千日还要有用兵一时呢，这样的大地震在同一地区可能几百年、上千年一遇，效费比有点成问题啊。
家园 你这句话依据不足。 新建的学校大量倒塌我看到距汶川半公里的阿坝师专没有一所校舍倒塌，当然都受到不同程度的损坏，按校长的说法：人员基本没有伤亡。
从救灾电视画面上可以看到，倒塌的房屋（包括学校）基本上都是混凝土预制楼板，砖墙承重的，说明不是新建的。