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            • 家园 哦,是我没记清楚

              那她最后定居于巴黎就是正确的了。作为望族的女儿,原作中把她最后归宿定在巴黎是合理的。只不过这个人物在书中的作用仅限于前半部。他们全家被驱逐出境之后,作者基本上着眼于日瓦戈和拉拉之间的恋情以及日瓦戈本人的遭遇去了。我个人非常喜欢的一段是描写日瓦戈与拉拉在尤里亚津的乡下生活的那些宁静的日子,让人感觉到风眼里那些来之不易的生活所含有的温情。

      • 家园 看过的几部,译名稍有不同哈

        Bonnie and Clyde (1967) 邦尼和克莱德----看影评知道最后一场两人被突突了的戏很经典,看的时候也很震撼。

        Mr. Smith Goes to Washington (1939) 史密斯先生上华府----老美对政治有颇为矛盾的看法:一方面是“政治这玩艺儿黑啊”,各种阴谋论,只要能想到的,层出不穷;另一方面,又总相信(或者指望)有一个圈外人outsider能一举杀进华府荡涤黑暗,这部电影就是,类似的还有“农家女(选议员的故事)”“冒牌总统dave”。现实中,从里根到奥巴马,也都有寄托“史密斯先生”的意思。

        Doctor Zhivago (1965) 日瓦戈医生----呵呵,因为事先知道帕斯捷尔纳克,俺是抱着看反动影片的心理看的。

        结果大失所望,给我印象最深的是北俄风光,音乐和拉拉的美貌----实际上有不少意见说老美糟蹋了原著。 对了,俺也不太能接受日瓦戈搞婚外恋。

        另外也粉喜欢《迷中迷》,这一百部里有吗?

      • 家园 我觉得奇爱博士比太空漫游好看

        后边一部效果很炫,但有点看不懂,尤其不明白结尾到底是什么意思。奇爱博士还是很搞笑的,后来才知道peter sellers一个人演了三个角色

      • 家园 西北偏北

        出名和当时冷战的社会背景有关,美国社会对于CIA之类政府机构权力的膨胀非常忧虑。

    • 家园 喜欢请继续

      尤其喜欢你恶搞《星球大战》,两坨大粪手电筒,在中国还好,在美国这么说会不会人身安全受到威胁啊哈哈

      • 家园 哈哈

        我和老美说了呀,大家都哈哈大笑,如梦初醒的样子,不过他们对星战也不感冒。铁杆粉丝面前我可不敢这样说。

        • 哈哈
          家园 是地是地,星战可是人家美国文化的标志之一啊

          可是两坨大粪手电筒。。。。。。。。俺还是想笑

    • 家园 《毕业生》的结局并不浪漫

      两人在完成了电影史上最优美的私奔后,立即陷入了对未来的迷茫与困惑中。

      第一次看《教父》的时候还在想,这演员怎么这么像阿尔帕西诺啊,从哪找来的?

      • 家园 要不怎么说是新好莱坞的开山之作呢

        因为结局突破了以往大团圆的固有模式(汗,原来米国人喜欢大团圆结局一点不亚于中国人)。

        公共汽车慢慢开走了,未来的道路还很长啊……

      • 家园 真的!

        怪不得我觉得他们的样子很奇怪,你这么一说我才领悟,就是这么个意思!

    • 家园 送花!

      我最近也在看老电影,主要是从优酷网上下.效果差点,不过还挺全,下的速度也够快.

      楼主可能不太喜欢歌舞片,我以前也是.不过<绿野仙踪>里的<彩虹那边>,<雨中曲>里面的多首歌曲可是百听不厌啊

      关于劳伦斯,中英文维基上介绍的竟然还不一样:

      同性戀的疑問

      勞倫斯作品中的一些章節,以及他在軍中同事的回憶,反映出他有性受虐狂傾向,喜歡鞭打和肉體的痛苦。1917年12月,勞倫斯曾在漢志鐵路沿線的德拉被土軍抓獲並遭雞姦和鞭打[來源請求]。勞倫斯另一個引人爭議的話題是其性傾向。《智慧的七柱》一書署明「致S.A.」的序言,被認為是寫給一個叫達霍姆(Dahoum全名為謝赫·艾哈邁德,Sheikh Ahmed)的14歲阿拉伯男孩的情詩(見引文)。達霍姆曾於1914年和勞倫斯一起在卡赫美士考古工地工作,兩人關係密切,勞倫斯拒絕澄清兩人有肉體關係的傳言,並在返回英國時將達霍姆帶回國與其同居。1916年,勞倫斯將達霍姆派往奧斯曼帝國統治下的阿拉伯北部聯繫阿拉伯民族主義分子,1917年,達霍姆因斑疹傷寒去世。勞倫斯後來在《智慧的七柱》中說,他的夢想——為阿拉伯人民贏得政治自由——本意就是想作為一份禮物送給達霍姆的。

      Sexuality

      Although there is "little evidence of any sexuality at all", suggesting asexuality, a few writers maintain that evidence can be found pointing to alleged homosexuality on Lawrence's part. Most scholars, including his official biographer, are sceptical of such claims.

      Lawrence did not discuss his sexual orientation or practices but in a letter to a homosexual man, Lawrence wrote that he did not find homosexuality morally wrong, yet he did find it distasteful.[17] In the book T. E. Lawrence by His Friends, many of Lawrence's friends are adamant that he was not homosexual but simply had little interest in the topic of sex. Not one of them suspected him of homosexual inclinations. E.H.R. Altounyan, a close friend of Lawrence, wrote the following in T. E. Lawrence by His Friends:

      "Women were to him persons, and as such to be appraised on their own merits. Preoccupation with sex is (except in the defective) due either to a sense of personal insufficiency and its resultant groping for fulfilment, or to a real sympathy with its biological purpose. Neither could hold much weight with him. He was justifiably self sufficient, and up to the time of his death no woman had convinced him of the necessity to secure his own succession. He was never married because he never happened to meet the right person; and nothing short of that would do[...]."

      There is one clearly homoerotic passage in the Introduction, Chapter 2, of Seven Pillars of Wisdom: "quivering together in the yielding sand, with intimate hot limbs in supreme embrace."

      The book is dedicated to "S.A." with a poem that begins:

      "I loved you, so I drew these tides of men into my hands

      and wrote my will across the sky in stars

      To gain you Freedom, the seven-pillared worthy house,

      that your eyes might be shining for me

      When I came."[18]

      The identity of "S.A." remains unclear; it has been argued that these initials identify a man, a woman, a nation, or some combination of the above. Lawrence himself maintained that "S.A." was a composite character.[citation needed] One specific claim is that S.A. is Selim Ahmed, also called Dahoum, a young Arab who worked with Lawrence at a pre-war archaeological dig at Carchemish, with whom Lawrence is said to have had a close relationship, and who apparently died of typhus in 1918. However, others maintain that Dahoum was merely an extremely close friend of the type common in the 19th and early 20th centuries, which often involved (non-sexual) physical contact. Lawrence himself, perhaps dissembling, maintained that "S.A." was a composite character.

      In Seven Pillars, Lawrence claims that, while reconnoitering Deraa in Arab disguise, he was captured, beaten, and raped.[19] Modern biographers have questioned whether the incident ever occurred: in part, because there are problems with the chronology of Lawrence's account, in part because his subsequent sex life revolved around male flagellation, and also, because the Ottoman commander whom he accuses of whipping and sodomising him went on to lead a blameless post-war life. Lawrence's own statements and actions concerning the incident have contributed to the confusion: he removed the page from his war diary which would have covered the November 1917 week in question.

      Lawrence hired people to whip him, indicating that he had a taste for masochism.[20] Also, years after the Deraa incident, Lawrence embarked on a rigid programme of physical rehabilitation, including diet, exercise, and swimming in the North Sea. During this time he recruited men from the service and told them a story about a fictitious uncle who, because Lawrence had stolen money from him, demanded that he enlist in the service and that he be beaten. Lawrence wrote letters purporting to be from the uncle ("R." or "The Old Man") instructing the men in how he was to be beaten, yet also asking them to persuade him to stop this. This treatment continued until his death.[21]

      Discussion about Lawrence's sexuality began with Richard Aldington's critical Lawrence of Arabia: A Biographical Inquiry (1955). Richard Meinertzhagen wrote in his Middle East Diary that upon meeting Lawrence, he asked himself, "Boy or girl?" – though historians widely consider this to have been added after the fact. The play Ross (1960) by Terence Rattigan, as well as the famous David Lean film Lawrence of Arabia, helped introduce the idea into popular culture.

      • 家园 一直在混兄调查的佷详细呀!

        花!

        英文的wiki好像更加强调的是他是无性欲+性受虐倾向。我猜他的无性欲是不是在掩饰性受虐+弯的本质呢?

        我看得是《阿拉伯的劳伦斯》影碟里面附带的采访影片制作人员的短片,里面佷隐讳的提到他可能有弯的倾向,看了wiki的介绍,看来也可以理解为性受虐倾向吧。

        电影里面表现的太隐讳了,如果不是知道这些背景,他被鞭打的那一段我都没有看懂。

        P.S.我确实不太喜欢歌舞片,故事情节发展太慢了。不过里面的音乐我是很喜欢的,单独听很不错。

        • 家园 花这句:

          “一个穿三点式的女人把两陀大粪顶在头上,然后所有人用手电筒打来打去~~~~”

          相当精彩的描写啊

        • 家园 有些歌舞片还是很值得一看的

          中国人最熟的应该是<音乐之声>吧,另外几部,除了你上面列出的TOP20的几部,还有<窈窕淑女>,<西区故事>(现在我终于知道了唐三藏的"only you"的出处了:-)也非常好.

          歌舞片音乐除了好听,与剧情的发展也密不可分.看完后的感觉真如喝酒一般:)

          afi还评选过百首金曲,榜首的就是<彩虹那边>,在二战时期成了美国文化标志之一.好玩的是,当初差点被从电影里砍掉,因为老板不明白多萝西为什么要在那个场景下唱那种歌.

          <热情似火>是我最喜欢的喜剧片之一,另外一部是<一夜风流>.最精彩的还不是梦露的性感,而是Jack Lemmon的演技.片尾的"Noboday is perfect"应该算是史上最搞笑的台词之一了吧.

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