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家园 有点翻案的味道 - 复 法国，美国，嘿嘿
家园 美国太子党可不是什么孬种 肯尼迪家族，罗斯福家族，哪个八旗子弟不是在西北大营里历练出来的。麦凯恩，祖上三代的将种，还不是老老实实到越南去挨枪子、吃牢饭。
世族里面，像小布什这样的怂货反而是少数。克林顿是寒族，没这底蕴，更不用提了。
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家园 49后领导子孙有饿死的？ - 复 法国，美国，嘿嘿
家园 虎大的观点让我很受启发啊 难道星船伞兵的世界（退伍军人才有公民权）才是最理想的？
家园 有时候想 Citizen这个东西，也许专门用它划分一个阶层，也未尝不可。年龄、贡献都到位了，就入了这个阶层。不是让太子党上战场，而是让普通人有机会上升。当然目前也还好就是了。
家园 公民权不仅仅是权利 很多人只看到了公民权的权利的一面，却看不到其义务的一面。
人天性逐利可见一斑。
所谓法的精神就是把公民的权利和义务结合起来，在利益集团内部激励美德。
民主从来都是内部民主，而且对外都是义务。看一个国家的生命力，关键看精英阶层和平民阶层的权利和义务是否统一。也就是说，法能不能一视同仁。公平是效率的前提，也是政治的道德基础。
所以，当我看到《华氏911》中介绍美国议员子女参战情况时，我就知道这个国家的这届政府道德基础已经沦丧，政治上破产经济上崩溃是迟早的事。尽管有信息革命之功，艰难险阻就在眼前。所以，奥巴马总统的口号就是“改变”。这是切中时弊的。
而英国，大多数时间就是小国寡民。贵族参战权的传统，使得皇室和社会名流阶层不得不前赴后继地参战，否则就有亡国之危。远的比如阿金库尔战役中战死的约克公爵。近的如两次大战，英国贵族的参战率和死亡率都是普通国民的10倍。再如马岛之战，
順便一提的是英國皇室安德魯王子，也是第二順位的王位繼承人，在無敵號航空母艦上的820中隊以一名海王型（Sea King）直升機飛行員的身分服役，任務除了一般的反潛艇及反艦隻巡邏外，他駕駛的直升機還負擔充當臨時性機載預警平臺，協助意外疏散、運送及搜救等行動。[URL=]http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E9%A9%AC%E5%B2%9B%E6%88%98%E4%BA%89 [/URL]比如现在的阿富汗战争，哈里王子参战并成为塔利班的暗杀对象。不论这些战争是否正义（我怀疑所有战争的正义性，却接受所有战争的借口），是否是做秀，对于内部民众的激励可想而知。
所以，这个岛上的绅士淑女战士将军流氓土匪酒鬼赌徒们，就是穷到了只有一条裤子，也是中国争霸世界的劲敌。
记住这个岛上激活所有人都熟悉的诗篇：
好朋友们， 再接再厉，向缺口冲去吧，冲不进，就拿咱们英国人的尸体去堵住这座城墙！在太平的年头，做一个大丈夫，首先就得讲斯文、讲谦逊；
可是一旦咱们的耳边响起了战号的召唤，咱们效法的是饥虎怒豹；
叫筋脉愤张，叫血气直冲，把善良的本性变成一片杀气腾腾。
叫两眼圆睁——那眼珠，从眼窝里突出来，就像是碉堡眼里的铜炮口；
叫双眉紧皱，笼罩住两眼，就像是险峻的悬岩俯视着汹涌的大海冲击那侵蚀了的山脚。
咬紧牙关，张大你的鼻孔，屏住气息，把根根神经像弓弦般拉到顶点！
冲呀，冲呀，你们最高贵的英国人，在你们的血管里，流着久经沙场的祖先的热血！
就在这一带，你们的祖先，一个个都是盖世英雄，从早厮杀到晚，直到再找不见对手，才收藏起自己的剑锋。
别羞辱了你们的母亲；
现在，快拿出勇气来，证明的确是他们——你所称做父亲的人，生养了你！
给那些没胆量的人树立一个榜样，教给他们该怎样打仗吧！
还有你们，好农民们，你们从英格兰土地上成长起来，就在这儿让大家瞧一瞧祖国健儿的身手。
让我们发誓吧，你们真不愧是个英国人——这一点，我毫不怀疑；
因为你们都不是那种辱没自己、短志气的人，个个都是眼睛里闪烁着威严的光彩。
我觉得，你们挺立在这儿，就像上了皮带的猎狗，全身紧张地等待着冲出去。
这一狩猎开始啦。
一鼓作气，往前直冲吧，一边冲，一边喊：“上帝保佑亨利、英格兰和圣乔治"
亨利五世
作者：莎士比亚
彻底消亡英国的方法有三：焚尽所有的英文书籍，杀尽岛上所有身高一尺5寸以上的人，然后让三岛陆沉。否则即使只要有一个女人存活下来，她就会按这个贵族参战体制复国。
所以，让我们先试着了解他们。
家园 hehe, teach Chinese more the problem is that most Chinese do not have opportunity to live among them and understand the large cultural differences there.
As I said before, war between nations is the war between 精英 of those nations. It is a competition of industrial power, political solidarity, public administration, diplomatic alliance, economic resources--and most importantly, those are all managed by political/military/economic 精英.
公民权不仅仅是权利--should be changed to 贵族/精英 权 or title 不仅仅是权利
Some Chinese now become very rich and start to pretend to be 贵族. But they do not understand aristcracy means not womanizing, nights of lavish dinners, global fashion brands, and reckless sex, more importantly, it implies social responsibility. When your country faces military or economic challenges, you should be the front man to lead the charge and quite possibly, enjoy the first bullet!
What Tiger implies here is 尚武精神, which is in the blood of Anglo-Saxon elites/people. Saxons even defeated Roman Empire at Teutoburg forest and throughout the history, Roman empire did not dare to cross the Danube River (多瑙河).
当我看到《华氏911》中介绍美国议员子女参战情况时，我就知道这个国家的这届政府道德基础已经沦丧，政治上破产经济上崩溃是迟早的事。尽管有信息革命之功，艰难险阻就在眼前。
--Yes and no. Yes, because the honor code is fading in America.
WASP elites are just like their British counterparts. Those WASP east-coast families used to stick to this British tradition, that's why so many sons of senators/congressmen did lose their lives in WWII. But America changed its military recruiting policies after Vietnam war, now, military service is no longer mandatory like in the ancient Rome empire. People are no longer proud of military service. This country is slipping into Carthagian way: pay high prices to attract all kinds of trash to stuff the ranks of the army, more like a mercenary army now. The Iraq war made it even worse.
No, because《华氏911》quoted wrong figure: he covers only the 100 senators, not all the Congressmen. Sons of some Congressmen do serve in the army, navy or air force.
使得皇室和社会名流阶层不得不前赴后继地参战，否则就有亡国之危。远的比如阿金库尔战役中战死的约克公爵。近的如两次大战，英国贵族的参战率和死亡率都是普通国民的10倍。再如马岛之战，
--Yes. Thumbs up. I know that too. That's why I respect the british aristcrats more than the French ones.
这个岛上的绅士淑女战士将军流氓土匪酒鬼赌徒们，就是穷到了只有一条裤子，也是中国争霸世界的劲敌。
--hehe, 酒鬼赌徒们 should be excluded. Agree with your comments! Chinese just rich up in the last 20 years and still underestimate their competitors.
Britons(esp., the English, not including Irishmen or Scots) defeated Portugese, Spaniards, Dutchmen, Frenchmen, Germans, Chinese, many small Asian nations in the last 300 years. Britons won the North American continent though they were repeatedly defeated by the French in the 7-years war.
Their allies include most commonwealth nations, their Austrlian, American and Canadian cousins, all Nordic nations (yes! go and learn the industrialization history), Benelux friends(created by British diplomats, Belgian king was from England), India, Hong Kong...
Japan was its student, Germany share the common Saxon link with it and was actually sponsored by England before 1870s.
A small island nation that maintained a global empire for more than 200 years--if one nation underestimate such a nation with contempt, then history will give this nation a harsh lesson.
Last comment: UK's only challenge now is its large gov. debt and shabby financial system. But in terms of national defense, it is more than strong enough to compel any military challenge.
hehe, btw, google search on Shan Wu Jing Shen
尚武精神_互动百科
难以想象日不落的海上贸易如果缺少了军事力量的支撑那会是怎么样的；难以想象经济、科技实力雄厚的大宋王朝如果拥有了一种坚定的尚武精神那历史又将如何。 ...
家园 你这是资产阶级唯心主义的观点 虽然写的很精彩 Some Chinese now become very rich and start to pretend to be 贵族. But they do not understand aristcracy means not womanizing, nights of lavish dinners, global fashion brands, and reckless sex, more importantly, it implies social responsibility. When your country faces military or economic challenges, you should be the front man to lead the charge and quite possibly, enjoy the first bullet!要按照你的说法,我们民工都成了"贵族"(有中国特色的社会主义贵族?).可我们可能不到四十岁就掉光了牙齿,可能过年了还要犹豫下这块猪肉要不要买,可能身上疼的胳膊都举不起来了却还要咬着牙下田里或厂里干十几个小时的重活,可能几十年如一日地在城管的羞辱和对亲人幸福的渴望中挣扎着对一切神明长跪不起.家园 British aristcrats also has social responsibility to care about the welfare of his or her subjects. There is a culturally implicit contract there.
I was very confused by your comments. Such as 资产阶级唯心主义的观点, or your 可我们可能不到四十岁就掉光了牙齿,可能过年了还要犹豫下这块猪肉要不要买,--first, 资产阶级唯心主--I do not know how to say; second, I am sure you misunderstood my comments.
I just want to remind the elite class of Chinese: title comes with more responsibility. Currently, they are squeezing every penny from their compatriots and do not dare to fight with the outside world to gain more resources for their own compatriots.
BTW, an aristcratic class in China has already formed, you liked it or not.