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    • 家园 民主进程不是LXB之流能阻止的

      中国的政治改革进程落后,真正的原因是什么?是美国及其走狗最多是干扰吧。

    • 家园 有没有揭露NED的英文文章呢

      俺把NED连接给同事看,别人说这个东东做honorable things。那个大牛有揭它丑事的英文连接呢,好去教育无知少年

      • 家园 更直观些

        [FLASH]http://player.youku.com/player.php/sid/XMTA2MTg2MjUy/v.swf[/FLASH]

        这部纪录片是澳洲记者约翰·皮尔格拍摄的《是谁在与民主为敌》。皮尔格曾荣膺“年度国际记者”与“联合国媒体和平奖”。他的纪录片得过艾美奖,以及英国电影电视艺术学院颁发的“理查丁伯比奖”等等。

        另外,还有部法国电视台拍的纪录片《颜色革命的背后》,日本NHK也曾经播放过。可惜国内的视频链接最近好像都被删除了,要看可以去Youtube找找。


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        • 家园 非常感谢 贷款送花

          那个法国的记录片,以前就看过。因为不知道确切名字,这两天在youtube上没找到。用《颜色革命的背后》找,倒是找到了NHK的版本。不过是日语配音加中文字幕。在google上查了一会,愣是没找到英文版的。而且这个纪录片在WIKI上都找不到。

          顺便抱怨一下,为什么这种纪录片国内都禁...

          • 家园 还花

            这个纪录片大概是05年出的,原版是法语的,在网上也放了很久。被删或有版权的原因。用电驴应该还能找到不少源。

            其实国内也有一个类似的政论片《颜色革命警示录》,不过在一些人眼里,客观性可能没有第三方的强。在这之前,同一个制作组还有一部政论片《居安思危:苏共亡党的历史教训》。

            • 还花
              家园 不是版权的问题

              《颜色革命的背后》法文 Les tats-Unis à la conquête de l'est。youtube上面法文版的和日文版的都能找到,就是没有英文版的。是不是很有意思呢。

      • 家园 NED现在做的基本是中情局以前秘密做的:颠覆它国政权

        换了手法而已。

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Endowment_for_Democracy

        NED regularly provides funding to opposition candidates in elections in countries other than the USA. According to Allen Weinstein, one of the founders of NED, "A lot of what we [NED] do today was done covertly 25 years ago by the CIA" (Blum, Rogue State: A Guide to the World's Only Superpower, 2000, p. 180).

        On its official web site, in the history section, its difference from the covert nature of CIA activities is explained:[10]

        In the aftermath of World War II, faced with threats to our democratic allies and without any mechanism to channel political assistance, U.S. policy makers resorted to covert means, secretly sending advisers, equipment, and funds to support newspapers and parties under siege in Europe. When it was revealed in the late 1960's that some American PVO's were receiving covert funding from the CIA to wage the battle of ideas at international forums, the Johnson Administration concluded that such funding should cease, recommending establishment of "a public-private mechanism" to fund overseas activities openly.

        “ A lot of what we do today was done covertly 25 years ago by the CIA

        —Allen Weinstein, who helped draft the legislation establishing NED, in a 1991 interview with the Washington Post

        [edit] Central America

        In 1984, NED funded a Panamanian presidential candidate backed by Manuel Noriega and the CIA. Congress afterwards issued a law prohibiting use of NED funds "to finance the campaign of candidates for public office."[citation needed]

        John Stauber and Sheldon Rampton wrote that before the 1990 elections in Nicaragua, "President George H. W. Bush sent $9 million in NED, including a $4 million contribution to the campaign of opposition presidential candidate Violeta Chamorro". Chamorro's party won 55 percent of the vote.[citation needed]

        In the 1990 elections in Haiti the NED supported Marc Bazin, providing a big fraction of his total $36 million in campaign funds. Despite this funding, he only obtained 12% of the vote. Marc Bazin had earlier been a World Bank official.[citation needed]

        Between 1990 and 1992, NED donated a quarter-million dollars to the Cuban-American National Foundation, the anti-Castro group.[citation needed]

        NED - together with USAID - financially supported, by disbursing about $50 million annually for "democracy promotion" projects in Honduras, many organisations within the Honduran Civic Democratic Union, a network of organisations which opposed the ousted president Manuel Zelaya and supported the military intervention during the 2009 Honduran constitutional crisis.[11] The International Republican Institute (IRI) received about $1.2 million from NED in 2009 in order to support think tanks and Advocacy groups to "support initiatives to implement political positions during the campaigns in 2009".[11][12]

        [edit] China

        On Tibet Issue:

        "Democratic Imperialism": Tibet, China, and the National Endowment for Democracy by Michael Barker

        South Asia Analysis Paper on NED

        On Xinjiang Issue:

        World Uyghur Congress says themselves to be affiliated with NED.[13]

        Eastern Europe

        According to the critics[who?], during the 1990s, NED invested millions of dollars in Eastern Europe to support free trade and the shock therapy program.[citation needed] The NED itself does not fund economic reform programs; NED core grantee Center for International Private Enterprise indeed supports programs aimed at development of private enterprise but this does not account for monetary stabilization programs.[citation needed]

        US foreign policy critic William Blum has alleged that the NED engaged in activities intended to liberate through regime change anti-American regimes in the region, including campaigns in Bulgaria and Albania.[20]

        [edit] Ukraine, Georgia, Serbia, Slovakia

        This section does not cite any references or sources.

        Please help improve this article by adding citations to reliable sources. Unsourced material may be challenged and removed. (February 2010)

        The NED played a significant role in the 2004 presidential election in Ukraine. In an article in the Washington Post, NED director Nadia Diuk acknowledged that there was a controversy surrounding the involvement of the NED: "Some have sought to portray the events in Ukraine as orchestrated in the West, a model executed with the support of Western pro-democracy foundations.' Comparing this to similar recent interventions in Slovakia, Serbia and Montenegro and Georgia, she writes, "Some commentators believe that the similarity of their actions proves they are part of a U.S.-sponsored plot, an effort to extend American influence throughout the world." Diuk states that critics are overlooking a genuinely "home-grown" aspect to the "election revolts" in these Eastern European regimes. She also stated that, "...there was a massive effort by nongovernmental organizations to monitor the vote, whether through parallel vote tabulations, exit polls or reports from domestic observers. These strategies were supported by the reports of Western election observers," and that "all these breakthrough elections have been accomplished with the vigorous participation of civic groups that support free and fair elections by monitoring the media, carrying out voter education, publicizing the platforms of candidates in the absence of a free press, training election observers, conducting polls and so on."[21]

        [edit] Others

        Fund the Chinese democracy movement.[citation needed]

        Funds the National Iranian American Council (NIAC), created in 2000.[22]

        Funds the website of Prague Watchdog, a political and humanitarian new source in Chechnya, Ingushetia and other North Caucasus republics. Funding totalled $49,830.[23]

        Funds Free North Korea Radio, a pirate radio station broadcasting from Seoul to North Koreans.[24]

        藏独疆独都得到NED资助。链接内有许多相关链接。

    • 家园 敢问LXB拿了多少钱=.=

      据我所知,LXB及其夫人的帐号没有查到任何大笔款项,即使是稿费数目也都非常小,不知道拿国外的钱这句话怎么冒出来的。

      另外,您愿意拿这么点钱来国内长期被人跟踪监视?动不动坐个十几年劳吗?

      还有,评价一个人是看其言行作为,而不是动机,“拿国外的钱搞民主”这句话有待商榷,但即使是真的,又如何?能够推进祖国民主化进程,为啥要在乎这经费是美国来的还是火星来的?

      最后,动机论也算我们民族的劣根性吗,怎么到处都见得着,还扯地这么长。。。。

      • 家园 当年 胡佳 刚出事

        也是一群人围上来,说拿钱云云,结果都是造谣。

        人血馒头这事,天朝人是断不了根的。

      • 家园 年薪两万三千美元

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        潜水龙:贴个图,您看仔细了

        • 家园 原来刘晓波工资不高啊?

          也就是上海普通白领水平(但是可以逃税,算中层白领)。

          一般本科毕业,找个好点的外企,或者垄断的国企,6,7年的工作经验,没得罪老板,怎么也有15w人民币了。

          这哥么上世纪80年代就是研究生讲师,混到现在跟21世纪毕业的本科生一个工资水平。

        • 家园 这些人很cheap呀

          这工资, 在美国也就是个在麦当劳翻汉堡的水平。

      • 家园 他有前后眼知道要坐牢吗?

        您愿意拿这么点钱来国内长期被人跟踪监视?动不动坐个十几年劳吗?

        犯罪的人都是有侥幸心理的,建议你去学学犯罪心理学。

        如果犯罪的人知道自己犯罪有可能坐牢就不去犯罪,那这世界上就没有罪犯了。

        更何况政治犯和普通刑事犯不同,坐牢是一种可以炫耀的政治资本呢!(类似还有黑帮分子坐牢,出来做炫耀资本。)这不,诺奖就来了嘛!名利双收。

      • 家园 贴个图,您看仔细了

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        外链图片需谨慎,可能会被源头改

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        外链图片需谨慎,可能会被源头改


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