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复日本一节目上藏独说：青川甘滇都是我们的，熊猫也是我们的

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我们或许可以说，有Chinatown的地方都是我们的

因为我们有独特的民族性，独特的语言，独特的文化，等等。然后各国都应该让chinatown的中国人民主自决，看要不要占领这个城市、国家

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花顶！

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最后一个从拉萨撤离的西方记者在CNN的访谈

Transcript: James Miles interview on Tibet

有预谋的针对汉、回的种族暴乱：

What I saw was calculated targeted violence against an ethnic group, or I should say two ethnic groups, primarily ethnic Han Chinese living in Lhasa, but also members of the Muslim Hui minority in Lhasa. And the Huis in Lhasa control much of the meat industry in the city. Those two groups were singled out by ethnic Tibetans. They marked those businesses that they knew to be Tibetan owned with white traditional scarves. Those businesses were left intact. Almost every single other across a wide swathe of the city, not only in the old Tibetan quarter, but also beyond it in areas dominated by the ethnic Han Chinese. Almost every other business was either burned, looted, destroyed, smashed into, the property therein hauled out into the streets, piled up, burned. It was an extraordinary outpouring of ethnic violence of a most unpleasant nature to watch, which surprised some Tibetans watching it. So they themselves were taken aback at the extent of what they saw. And it was not just targeted against property either. Of course many ethnic Han Chinese and Huis fled as soon as this broke out. But those who were caught in the early stages of it were themselves targeted. Stones thrown at them. At one point, I saw them throwing stones at a boy of maybe around 10 years old perhaps cycling along the street. I in fact walked out in front of them and said stop. It was a remarkable explosion of simmering ethnic grievances in the city.

到底谁是带武装的凶煞

I saw them carrying traditional Tibetan swords, I didn't actually see them getting them out and intimidating people with them. But clearly the purpose of carrying them was to scare people. And speaking later to ethnic Han Chinese, that was one point that they frequently drew attention to. That these people were armed and very intimidating.

揭穿藏毒“血腥杀戮”的谎言

In fact what we saw, and I was watching it at the earliest stages, was complete inaction on the part of the authorities. It seemed as if they were paralyzed by indecision over how to handle this. The rioting rapidly spread from Beijing Road, this main central thoroughfare of Lhasa, into the narrow alleyways of the old Tibetan quarter. But I didn't see any attempt in those early hours by the authorities to intervene.

And what they did instead was let the rioting run its course and it didn't really finish as far as I saw until the middle of the day on the following day on the Saturday, March the 15th.

Well this was covering a vast area of the city and I was the only foreign journalist, at least accredited, to ...... But I can do no more really on the basis of what I saw then say there was a probability that some ethnic Chinese were killed in this violence, and also a probability that some Tibetans, Tibetan rioters themselves were killed by members of the security forces. But it's impossible to get the kind of numbers or real first hand evidences necessary to back that up.

But what I saw was small groups of Tibetans, and this was on the second day of the protests, throwing stones towards what I assumed to be, and they were slightly out of vision, members of the security forces. I would hear and indeed smell occasional volleys of Tear gas fired back. There clearly was a small scale clash going on between Tibetans and the security forces. But on the second day things had calmed down generally compared with the huge rioting that was going on...on the Friday. And the authorities were responding to these occasional clashes with Tibetans not by moving forward rapidly with either riot police and truncheons and shields, or indeed troops with rifles. But for a long time, just with occasional, with the very occasional round of tear gas, which would send and I could see this, people scattering back into these very, very, narrow and winding alleyways.

On the second day we came back to the shops and I saw them picking through the wreckage, tears in their eyes. They were astonished, as I was, at the lack of any security presence on the previous day. I

全文虽然还带有西煤对TG特有的偏见，但是，有关暴乱现场的描述是真实、可靠的。

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/03/20/tibet.miles.interview/index.html

关键词(Tags): #西藏资料，

复最后一个从拉萨撤离的西方记者在CNN的访谈

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揭露西方煤体不公正报道的视频

请大家方便时转贴给身边的中外友人,另外，请多多点击这个VIDEO以便让更多的人看到西煤的无耻：

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSQnK5FcKas

有youtube账号的同学，请把这个录像加入你的favorite，给于5星评级。

复教你一步步反藏独 - 新添西藏人口、教育等内容4/07

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花楼主，这可是好贴！

复教你一步步反藏独 - 新添西藏人口、教育等内容4/07

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楼主RP好呀

惊喜：所有在本帖先送花者得【通宝】一枚

恭喜：你意外获得【西西河通宝】一枚

谢谢：作者意外获得【西西河通宝】一枚

鲜花已经成功送出。

此次送花为【有效送花赞扬，涨乐善、声望】

复教你一步步反藏独 - 新添西藏人口、教育等内容4/07

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西方媒体在拉萨事件报道上太恶心了

[FLASH]http://www.youtube.com/v/uSQnK5FcKas&hl=en[/FLASH]

复达赖喇嘛与9/11 -达赖和纳粹、东京毒气子麻原等恐怖分子的亲密

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复南北战争的例子等着留给台独呢

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一小撮藏族分裂分子，藏族有五百多万，捣蛋的就是那一批

复西方媒体在拉萨事件报道上太恶心了

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不是

一般地齐心合力呀，恨不得TG乱了手脚，中国立马十分五裂才称心。

德国媒体尤其恶劣，一幅急先锋的样子，其中明镜周刊（Spiegel)尤其无耻，至今不改其诬蔑的言论，反而把华人自发的网上揭批西煤的行为称为zf组织的行动。这种被人当场捉贼被抓贼抓反而倒打一耙的所谓国际一流煤体，让人真正开眼了。

ZT:明镜周刊中文译文

数千个真相的战场

-中国的舆论战争，令人吃惊的辩论文化

Christian Stöcker

谎言、宣传造势、目击者的报道：在网络上，西藏危机已经引发了一场在中国人与其敌手间展开的别开生面的舆论大战。一场令人惊异的新的辩论文化，几天之内蔓延到了整个世界。

这是一场头脑的斗争，波及到了一天的24小时，波及到了全世界。眼下，一场激烈的争论正在上演，从一个人到另一个人，从一个大陆到另一个大陆，从文字、图片，到音乐、视频，一切宣传手段都派上了用场。西藏危机，在互联网上掀起了千层浪：几日之间，网上诞生了一种新的、饶有兴趣的辩论文化。这与文化悲观主义所设想的场景——眼下德国正有某些预言家将之与互联网挂起钩来——可谓大相径庭。

比如说，Youtube的用户NZKOF在上面上传了一段宣传造势的视频：在激昂的管弦乐伴奏下，这一视频展示了西藏的历史，其中不乏印有所谓事实证据的文献碑刻，来展示西藏与中国的关系。NZKOF站在哪一边，可谓不言而喻——人们甚至无需观看这段7分钟的视频，因为视频的题目是，“西藏过去是、现在是，将来也永远是中国的一部分”。约有1百万人观看了这段视频。每秒钟都会有新的评论添加进来，目前共有7万余条。

类似的舆论造势和挑衅，网上大约有100多个——双方都有。这些视频是新式舆论大战的结晶。最先从西藏流传出的拍摄的模模糊糊的街道场景，已可证实,最近Youtube上汇聚传播的图片之多，没有任何地方可以匹敌，但是，它们的真实性及其真正的意义所在，却让人难以判断。

一段最新的视频将矛头对准了西方媒体，其中也包括《明镜》，它指责西方媒体运用大量虚假图片标题和虚假录像来为自己煽动造势。但是如果仔细考察一下的话，就不难发现这些指责才是在搞舆论煽动。貌似忠于政府的集团分子，在留言栏中欢呼高叫。引人注意的是，大量Youtube的新注册用户，都是3月17号或以后才注册的，而且他们只对那里的中国舆论造势视频感兴趣。

上一周，在明镜在线的论坛里，也不同寻常地同样出现了大量新注册的用户。许多新用户激烈地替中国政府在西藏的行为辩护——其他人则在反击。这些新来的讨论者，部分可能是雇用来的造势力量，另一些则可能是中国的朋友，他们不愿意看到这个国家再次被称为全球邪恶势力的现实。

过去三天内，英文维基百科中与西藏有关的词条，被改动了上百次，有些是汪达尔似的（译者注：汪达尔人属日耳曼民族，公元四到五世纪入侵高卢、西班牙、北非等地、并攻占罗马，后该词用来比喻野蛮，摧残文化等）——短时间内，他们已经将完整的词条解释，换成了对这个国家、喇嘛以及达赖的辱骂言辞。连达赖喇嘛的俗家姓名——丹增嘉措，也遭到了他们勤勉不辍的修改。目前，这位诺贝尔和平奖的获得者，被称为了“独裁者”，在其统治下，人民遭到被剜去双眼的刑罚。还有一些篡改更为愚笨粗俗。

但是不是遍地都是这么低级水平的网络辩论，也有一些促进中国和世界其它地区进行真正对话的努力。

之后就是举例，比如一些Blog等等。还说网上舆论出现了多种声音，从某个侧面也是好事，但有时又充满了洗脑言论、谎言，如何将之与真实的声音区分呢？

http://www.dolc.de/forum/viewthread.php?tid=694054&extra=page%3D2&page=1

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再加一个例子,世界最大的民主国家印度是怎样报道西藏事件的

西藏事件: 看印度媒体如何利用央视报道来歪曲造谣(ZT)

http:/Rediff 号称印度最大的新闻网站(相当于新浪网), 今天看到其新闻主页(http://www.rediff.com/news/index.html)头版上有条有条视频新闻 Tibetans vent their fury (藏人发泄怒火) (http://specials.rediff.com/news/2008/mar/17video.htm)

　　　　打开一看, 真让人惊讶, 居然是拿我们中央电视台新闻的视频来造谣.

　　　　请看:

　　　　这名藏族妇女用普通话说:

　　　　我的心情是非常沉重的, 这些少数分裂分子他们搞的破坏活动, 这我们都是见证, 好日子不过, 小孩上学的也不让上, 正常的上班也不能上班, 破坏了我们的好日子...

　　　　同步打出的英文翻译却是:

　　　　All the Tibetan people have gathered together yesterday on the street and the militery men come and fired some tear gas, some poisonous one, to us in the afternoon at 3 or 4PM and arrested about 10 or 20 people.

　　　　(昨天所有的藏人都上街了, 下午3,4点钟的时候, 军队来朝我们喷有毒的催泪气体, 还抓了10几20个人)

　　　　这段视频由号称南亚最好的多媒体新闻媒体公司 ANI (Asian News International) 制作给 rediff 使用.

　　　　真是没见过这么无耻的, 他们就不怕印度也有人听得懂中文? 居然还打上标志 Courtesy:CCTV (引自CCTV)

图片联连接:http://cache.tianya.cn/publicforum/content/worldlook/1/171867.shtml

复再加一个例子,世界最大的民主国家印度是怎样报道西藏事件的

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阿三，这事得跟着美国爹

复再加一个例子,世界最大的民主国家印度是怎样报道西藏事件的

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谢谢提供资料

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