主题:【求助】关于志愿军打美军空降兵的战例 -- 萨苏
萨大问起的美军空降部队很可能是2nd Ranger Infantry Company (Airborne)-空降兵第二游骑兵连。
如果最后确认的话,那萨大文中的老几位是真的碰到精锐了,比187的还要难对付。黑鹰坠落讲的就是这种兵的故事。
韩战期间,这些游骑兵连是完全基于二战空降兵老兵志愿组建起来的,一共就十五,六个连的规模,每个连一般只配属给美军的师一级的单位,任务是和志愿军的师级尖刀连一样一样的呀,要说不同那就是美军的游骑兵战斗技能更全面(全部有伞降资格)。据网上的资料,当时组建这些连队的时候,竟然有5000多的现役伞兵报名,这也从另外一个侧面证明了这些连队的兵员素质之高。
而这个第二游骑兵连还要更加的特别一点-全体官兵都是黑人,作为不同于一般部队的游骑兵,这是前无古人,后无来者的。
关键词:
2nd Ranger Infantry Company (Airborne)
4 April 1951
2nd and 4th Rangers received new assignments. 2nd Rangers were to become a training base for black soldiers assigned to the 7th Infantry Division. Their mission was to provide two weeks of training to 52 replacements.
29 April 1951
2nd Rangers were ordered to move a few miles northwest to occupy and hold a hill outside of village of Chaun-ni. Later during the campaign, on 19 and 20 May, the 2 d Rangers participated in the assault on Hill 581.
Chaun-ni : http://land.worldcitydb.com/chaun-ni_990029.aspx
LATITUDE : 37.63184
LONGITUDE : 128.0201
20-21 May 1951
2nd Rangers lead assault on Hill 581 killing 50 Chinese and wounding 90 in about 2 hours. 17 members of the 2nd Rangers were awarded the Purple Heart , and 7 were cited for bravery.
小理山 : Sorisan +37°46' 5.99", +127°18' 52.92"
时间和地点都挺相近的。
下面的网站有空降兵第二游骑兵连韩战期间比较全的资料,尤其是那本书,我肯定会买来看看。还要争取找作者聊聊。
http://www.secondrangerinfantrycompany.com
老萨要是有用得着我的地方,请不要客气。
刚刚觉得Daharry的考据符合当时时间,又觉得您这个符合地点!不过,至少老唐击毙的那一个是个白人,和这个游骑兵有点儿不符,不过,要真的打了游骑兵,告诉老爷子他肯定觉得骄傲 -- 那才是真正的精兵对精兵阿!
多年前一本台湾杂志里面关于美军特种的文章里面提到过,好像是一队游骑兵遭遇2个连(排?)的志愿军侦查部队,恶战中双方损失都很惨重。
我是觉要先把地点搞清楚(这点GOOGLE EARTH很有帮助),然后就是时间和部队。
在我贴出的信息里,美方也提到了于5月19,20日进攻581,这个581和您提到的580.7很相似,可能指的是一个山头。另外就是时间和地点的高度吻合。
不过我目前也不大有把握,还要等看到书里的地图,然后再比较中方的资料才有可能最后认定。
总之劝您不要急。
BTW,小理山目前是南韩的旅游景点,老兵们要是还走得动,应该再去看看,没准还能碰上美国老兵呢,费用大家应该凑得出来。
离那里不远的雪马里(Seolmacheon)可是英国老兵常去的地方,还有纪念碑呢。要是您有时间查查英军双徽营的网站(Gloucestershire Regiment),那感慨可能就更多了。
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也不知道这些老兵要是真的见了面会想些什么,又会谈些什么。
刚看了DSZH上的讨论,感觉也非常有可能。根据网页上的记录,该连在老萨说的这个时间点前后也有大量伤亡。
DSZH上的讨论在此:http://top81.ws/show.php?f=1&t=756109&m=4827043
该连的网页和留言板:http://www.koreanwar.org/html/units/1ircoa.htm
空降兵第二游骑兵连从1951年4月24日到6月10日这段时间内只有1人阵亡。
他是RALPH W SUTTON下士。
阵亡时间为1951年5月20日。
阵亡地点在SANG-KWIRYANG。
详细阵亡资料已经写在我给萨苏的回贴里。
前一阵子光灌水了,今天来点干的,将功赎罪,哈哈。
基本认同pxpxpx提出的2nd Ranger Infantry Company (Airborne)--空降兵第二游骑兵连参战的看法。
一、在朝鲜战争中,第二游骑兵连隶属于美军第七师或187空降团战斗群(combat team)
证据1:链接
证据2:书《Airborne Rangers》By Alan M. Landau,第30页末(链接)
二、第二游骑兵连的Ralph W. Sutton在1951年5月20日阵亡于Sang-Kwiryang附近。
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以下引用自http://www.kwp.org/html/korean_war_project_remembrance.html
2nd Ranger Infantry Company (Airborne)
Airborne Ranger
Army
Hostile, Died (KIA)
Date Of Loss: May 20, 1951
Service Number: RA34840408
CHARLESTON COUNTY, SC
Location of Loss: SANG-KWIRYANG
Born: March 11, 1925
Comments: Corporal Sutton was a member of the 2nd Airborne Ranger Company, 7th Infantry Division. He was Killed in Action while fighting the enemy near Sang-Kwiryang, South Korea on May 20, 1951.
Korean War Project Key No: 29283
也可参见这里
三、在书《Elite Warriors》 By Lance Q. Zedric, Michael F. Dilley,第202页中(链接)也提到了第二游骑兵连在Sang Kwiryang战斗中的出色表现。
下面就可以集中讨论Sang Kwiryang这个地点了。
看样子打的更可能是第1空降游骑兵连,该连当时配属米军第二师,在萨大文中提到的作战地域,并且在5月20日左右伤亡重大,下文中家属提到被围攻和May Massacre
1st Ranger Infantry Company (Airborne)
1st Ranger May Massacre
On Sun, 15 Jun 1997
Updated 2 Jul 1999
Chris or Jack Adkison Email address wrote:
phone: 803 593-3749 (Jack)
My Father and I were going through any and all documents availible for
information on my uncle Cpl. Harold F Adkinson.
He and my Dad were very close. My Dad has s[ent a great deal of time
over the last few years trying to piece together what happened on that
fateful night.
He became missing on the night of May 19, 1951 during the May Massacre.
His unit (1st Ranger Company (Airborn) had been surrounded by the
Chinese near Hill 710 close to Kumagol. They were retreating in a
"moving box" artillery barrage. It is our understanding that this was
close to the "no name line".
My Father has interviewed numerous friends and comrades of Harold's but
no one is sure what happened to him. If you could gather any
information on him or the places mentioned above we would appreciate
your help.
Thanks
Chris and Jack Adkison
有人说当时是配属给第二师…… 好几个帖子都提到一个“五月大屠杀”,不知道是怎么回事。
想请教下,霉军二战时期有种族隔离惯例,黑人只能搞运输或则就是1个单独的黑人部队,如第99战斗机中队。。。。纯黑人作战部队/
把黑人连队和白人连队混在一个师是什么时候开始的??谢谢