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家园 注意安全

心里要拿稳,手里也要拿稳

家园 又只差两个人了啊
家园 刚刚看了评论,果然是阶级斗争天天讲。

好莱坞还是很成功的。基本就是那一套。

不过,也有不少人指出这种危机根源是在美国。美国政府的领导力出了问题。他们要一个政府“truely by the people, for the people, and run for the good of the people”。

但是,他们的认识也就如此而已。没有人谈到如何才可能消灭这种危机于萌芽。没有人认识到,这种结果是制度性的问题。不解决资本利益高于国家利益的问题,美国的问题还会回来的。

监督永远没有发现漏洞容易。美国人民为资本家的贪婪付账的日子远远没有完结。

家园 把《华尔街日报》中英文版文章后的评论都给出链接。

大家可以看看中文读者和英文读者对同样的报道是如何评论的。

英文版后读者评论

中文版后读者评论

看到了中文评论中有这么一则:

不要这样啊,总理,让中国人民在这场危机中更觉得紧张了。难道相互做一些经济方面的改革不好吗?以更好的建设性的对话姿态溶入全球的金融贸易体系对中国老百姓以及对华尔街不都是好事吗。

中国老百姓还是太善良了。。。

家园 多谢!
家园 个人猜测:打是亲来骂是爱,利益把咱绑一块!

这两天吵得凶点,过两天谈的时候气就足一点。

这么多年同床共枕下来,一时半会是拆不开的,

噢,8马的可选项实在有限,和中国先磨合下去是最可能的选项。

磨合,从摩擦开始...

除非,噢,8马把他的国内政策口号从 CHANGE 改成 REVOLUTION ,得是暴力的那种!

家园 这就是美国愤青吧,希望不要和独裁国家做生意

首先从中国开始有足够的民主国家可以开展自由贸易,这不会是最后一次听到中国的声音,还有打赌中国人不可能看到这个帖子(是不是这个意思?),还希望奥黑马不要对中国道歉(你做了什么需要向我们道歉)。

美国网友水平很低啊

We should never have been doing business with a communist regime in the first place. All of the economic theorists assume everyone is playing by the same rules. China is a psuedo-western economic dictatorship (you can bet the Chinese will not be reading this post in China). They have only been interested in our type system to keep their peasants employed so they can stay in power. Now that a bubble burst (which is part of the cycle and how we learn and improve our system) and a downturn doesn't meet their objectives, they will likely turn militaristic and further a militaristic foreign policy to keep their subjects happy. China's gov't views the US as THE primary threat to their existence. I am not interested in hearing from those with Bush Deranged Syndrome about how the US has been doing that for years because it only shows further evidence of those that foolishly believe there is moral equivalency between freedom and dictatorships. Let hope Obama doesn't apologize to the Chinese.

The US needs to get extracted economically from dictatorships world-wide, starting with China. There are enough democratically elected govts world wide to support free trade. It should also be a requirement to have a seat at the table and partake of our economies. In this last election the biggest issue is going to be foreign policy. How well the US can identify threats will determine how well we can position to respond to them. Good luck to the new administration in trying to charm our adversaries into seeing things our way. I wish them the best of luck but I am afraid the US is being incredibly naive. This will not be the last that we hear from the Chinese。

家园 The party is over.

So what if China unloads, after the pain is over, it is of benefit to the US. "They both need each other", but at what cost ? China becoming more like the US (living standards wise) which is fine, but pushing the American way of life to Chinese levels is not. And that is precisely what is happening. The consequences are dismal, even for those misguided US capitalists, that benefited and thought that this is sustainable. The party is over.

美国人生活下降到中国水平则不可-----------------------其实我们的生活也挺好的,无非要多山寨一点东西嘛。

Funny how the most powerful democracy in the word is completely dependent on the most powerful/largest communist nation. What's wrong with this picture?

好笑的是为何世上最民主的国家要依赖世上最大最强的共产主义国家,这场景是不是有什么问题?河蟹。河蟹。

家园 雄文---------伪君子

锤床大笑中........................

The Chinese were not complaining when Americans still had jobs and thus money to buy tchotckes from them, and they still believed they would get positive returns on investments, it was still the same system and they participated in it and wanted to profit from it. Hypocrites! In fact all these countries that were licking their lips and drooling over their financial positions in 2006 and are now upset because things went bad and are pointing fingers to the US are being hypocritical.

Is Jiabao just now finding out how the system worked? Please gimme a break, they've gotten physicist spies into Los Alamos, can't tell me they didn't know how things worked? Bullcr@p!Having said that, he's right in one thing the system was unsustainable, but maybe he should have said that some years ago why did he wait till now?中国人不在美国人仍然有工作因而有钱在他们那里买什么什么东西的时候发难,当时他们仍然对其投资持积极态度,当时他们参与了同一个游戏并期待回报。伪君子!事实上所有国家在2006年时都舔着嘴垂涎于他们的财务状况,而现在却因事情变坏而沮丧并归罪于美国!伪君子!

温家宝你今天才知道游戏规则啊?帮帮忙,他们(中国人)在Los Alamos(啥地方啊?)安插了物理学家做间谍,他们会不知道事情会到这一步(物理学家和金融危机有啥联系?)?放屁!今天这样讲好像有道理,但当初你干什么去了?

家园 其实也不能怪他们,毕竟现在这套制度(无论美国还是中国)

都太复杂了,尝试改变都是必要的,可惜成王败寇.

我倒是觉得,次贷这种回笼资金的方式,可能会在几十年后被重新包装再用一次,然后它的影响应该会是在百年这个级别的时间长度里----当然,我觉得,它可能还会多次造成创伤,不过至少会有一次,大家能够掌握它,创造新的货币乘数理论值.

当然,也可能在那之前,全世界转向科学社会主义,开始计划经济,谁说得准呢....

家园 温的话绵里藏针,我要是美国人看了直播,也会生气,正常
家园 悬赏!

谁能把陈胜吴广那套模板翻译了贴到哪边去(兄弟水平不够),兄弟这里通宝和花大大地有!!!

家园 洛斯阿拉莫斯

1945年7月,该实验室研制首枚原子弹,曼哈顿计划的所在地。

实验室约三分之一的技术人员是物理学专家、四分之一是工程师、六分之一是化学和材料专家,其余的工作在数学和计算科学、生物科学、地质科学等其他学科。也有外部的专家和学生来实验室做访问研究工作。实验室联合大学和工业界进行能源方面的基础和应用研究。实验室年度预算约为22亿美元。

洛斯阿拉莫斯是美国设计核武器的两个机构之一。

李文和就是那儿的。

家园 Los Alamos是美国核武器研究中心

当年李文和案主角李文和就是在那里工作的。

家园 不是他们装傻,而是他们真傻

当年当TA的时候不少本科生连1/10和0.08哪个大都搞不清。

Don't argue with idoits. It is only to degrade yourself. And idoits can beat you with their experience.

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