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家园 整个欧洲?不行,太肥了

需要分而食之

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家园 欧洲是有联合可能的

所以,不可以把整个欧洲作为一个对象,这样不利于分化和分裂。

一定要分而治之!

要搞,每次只搞一到两个。不能让他们团结起来。

家园 现在的欧洲应该不希望看到法国的没落

以任何一国的力量是无法抗衡中美的,联合起来还有些希望,尤其是在寒冬,抱团取暖应该是他们的自然反应,文化和人种上的相似,也有利于他们之间建立合作,有条件,有理由,有可能。

家园 这个有道理,但操作起来比较难

要所有欧洲国家想法相同比较难,但是要他们不同就比较容易了。

家园 【NEWS】 法国核电巨头Areva和印度签署协议

提供6个核反应发电机组....

PARIS — French nuclear giant Areva signed a preliminary deal Wednesday to provide India with up to six new-generation reactors — a move hailed in India as ending its nuclear isolation and transforming the country into "a responsible nuclear state."

The Paris-based company says the deal signed with Indian electric utility Nuclear Power Corporation of India Ltd. paves the way for technical cooperation on at least two and as many as six of Areva's so-called EPRs, or Evolutionary Power Reactors, at the Jaitapur site in the western state of Maharashtra.

Areva's statement didn't estimate the value of the deal, which expands the list of countries adopting the technology in response to skyrocketing energy demand. Last year, an executive at Areva rival General Electric Co. estimated the size of India's nuclear market at more than $30 billion.

Indian officials at Wednesday's signing said the deal marked the start of a wide-ranging future collaboration on nuclear issues between the two countries.

"This is just the beginning," said Anil Kakodkar, Chairman of India's Atomic Energy Commission.

Prithviraj Chavan, minister in the prime minister's office responsible for nuclear issues, said the deal marked the end of India's "nuclear isolation" and signaled its emergence as "a responsible nuclear state."

The deal follows the conclusion of a landmark nuclear deal between the United States and India earlier this year, which opened the way for nuclear trade between India and other nations. Previously, India had faced a nuclear trade ban since its first atomic test in 1974 amid its refusal to sign international treaties designed to limit the illicit spread of such materials.

India has already inked deals with Russia to build new nuclear plants, but the deal with Areva is the first commercial agreement since India received the go-ahead from the International Atomic Energy Agency last year.

Chavan said India needs to quadruple power generation by 2032, so the country can keep its economy growing and pull millions out of poverty. Current shortfalls, particularly at peak periods, mean that India's cities suffer frequent power outages — sometimes lasting an entire day.

The utility company NPCIL already has five reactors under construction, which will increase its electricity generating capacity by 2,660 megawatts, from 4,120 megawatts currently. It operates all of India's 17 existing nuclear reactors.

Today, India gets just 3 percent of its energy — about 4,100 megawatts — from nuclear power. By 2032, the government plans to generate 700 gigawatts overall, with nuclear accounting for 63,000 megawatts.

That adds up to about 40 new nuclear reactors worth some $80 billion, according to NPCIL chairman Shreyans Kumar Jain.

Besides GE, Areva competes with Westinghouse Electric Co. and Russia's Rosatom State Nuclear Energy Corp. to build new reactors in India. Rosatom is already helping India build two nuclear reactors.

The Areva-designed pressurized water reactors, which are meant to replace aging reactors around the world whose designs date from decades ago, are already under construction in Finland, France and China. Areva also has plans to build the new reactors in Britain and the United States, company spokeswoman Patricia Marie said.

However, the Finnish project has been plagued by repeated delays due to faulty materials and planning problems since construction began in 2005. The 1,600-megawatt plant was to be online in 2009, but the latest estimated startup date is 2012.

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家园 开始过招...
家园 欧洲是几千年的“战国”,互相的积怨大了去了

如果法国隔屁了,其它欧洲国家能得些好处,它们绝对食之

家园 联合?今后两年时间里能保住欧元就不错了

现在纷纷动用财政手段刺激经济。不少国家赤字水平已经在欧元协议的范围周边了。09年绝大多数国家可能会扩大财政开支,那么欧元的基础会更加被动摇。

家园 some said less than 2 years.
家园 i see no way they can do it

U.S. and Russia have taken action. Now China just jumped in. It is show time.

家园 U.S. aims at EURO

Russia eyes on geopolitics and energy. China focuses in technology upgrade and markets.

家园 法国的那个ERP超贵,印度人用也是自找苦吃

法国的那个ERP技术,首个在芬兰的示范堆造价超过 4000美元每千瓦。

中国的国产的CRP65堆(秦山二期)只要1300美元每千瓦

二代半的CRP1000,(山东海阳批量建设6台,已开工),造价再1500-1700美元每千瓦

引进美国的AP1000三代核电技术的首批机组,设计造价是1500-1700美元每千瓦,虽然现在价格猛涨到2000-2300美元每千瓦,但也比ERP便宜多了。

论技术AP1000比ERP可以说是先进半代的。

印度人真有钱,用得起ERP。不知道他们的电费怎么算。

家园 我倒不是心疼那俩钱儿...(也有点心疼)

关键看怎么花了。这几天一看欧洲那群家伙堆笑脸心里就烦,其实他们也不用献媚,手里有啥好东西赶紧套出来,尤其是以前对中国藏着掖着的,营养价值比较高的...从新闻上看也不知道都咱都具体买了些啥,希望对方真是卖儿卖女。

另外一个担心是:今天他们卖儿卖女,明天搞不好就会打土豪分田地。这些传统上的经济强国,风暴过后肯定也会“反思”自个儿咋搞的这么狼狈,搞到要向传统意识形态上的敌人TG低头。大范围针对中国的贸易保护主义搞不好会抬头。什么WTO,自由市场经济,游戏规则当初就是这些老牌资本主义国家定的,而事实证明,这些规则也是可以说改就改的。

中国必须在对方焦头烂额的这段时间,想办法点燃“内需市场”这个新火车头,进一步拉大差距,同时加快产业结构优化调整。杀杀病毒,加强整个经济系统的容错能力。否则等到这场危机结束,中国还是一用出口衬衫和玩具换空客的国家,那就有的瞧了。所谓木秀于林风催之(我这儿可说的不是法国),这次危机中国目标感觉有点大了,埋头挣大钱的好日子过去了..当中国的家底儿被世界媒体曝光的时候,在一片羡慕的赞叹声中我却想起了“芙蓉镇”

今天看新闻

1坏消息, 建国以来最大干旱

2坏消息, 就业形式依旧严峻,大量返乡民工使情况雪上加霜

3好消息, 制造领域,尤其是高科技含量制造领域对工人尤其是熟练技工需求增加

4坏消息, 大量失业的前打工人员不具备第三条所需素质,结果是一头缺人,一头找不到工作

Anyway,我这儿其实也就是发发感慨瞎操心...

家园 贵没什么,阿三有钱~~

尤其是有当了裤子也要当核大国的雄心!和受了委屈憋着找中国事儿的法国自然一拍即合

家园 又翻了翻新闻,看起来好像也没买啥

和没金融危机时差不多,我猜要价不高可能就是不想过分刺激对方,导致劳动密集型企业回流,降低日后发生针对中国产品的大范围贸易保护的风险,同时还能在国际上留下一个负责任的大国的好印象

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