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家园 你不是坏人,你只是装作你是坏人了
家园 存个货

早在1928年,巴赫金就对形式主义者提出的交际模式进行了批判。由于形式主义者认为在两个社会成员A(作者)和B(读者)之间有现成的、静止的交际和沟通,A和B的社会关系是静止不变的,信息X是现成的,只需要由A转达给B。

As early as 1928, Bakhtin made critical comment on the formalism of the communication mode. Since the formalism believe the two element of society A (Author) and B (the readers) were ready-made, static communication and exchange information, the Social relations between them are static, the information X is a ready-made and only deliveried by the A to the B.

如图:

Y

A(作者).二≥B(读者)

巴赫金指出这种模式是“根本错误的”,不仅“A和B之间的关系处于不断的变化和形成之中,就是在沟通过程之中他们也发生变化”,而且“也没有现成的信息沟通x,它是在A与B交际过程中形成的”,因为“沟通的东西与沟通的形式、方法和具体条件不可分割”【12】311

Bakhtin pointed out that this model is "fundamentally wrong", not only the "A and B in a constant relationship between the ongoing change and formation, and also they are change during the process of communication “And that "there is no information readily available to communicate x, it is formed in the A and B by the process of communication"

Because "things to communicate with the form of communication, methods, and the specific terms as an integral"

巴赫金对缺乏对话因素、忽视参与者个性与积极性的交际模式始终持批判的态度。当然,在批判的同时,巴赫金也在逐步完善自己以对话为基石的交际模式,这里,笔者将其称之为对话交际模式。在他的新模式中,表述是核心所在,

Bakhtin has always been critical about the lack of dialogue factors, the communication which ignore the participants even the individuality and positive patterns attitude. Of course, At the same time, Bakhtin also gradually improve his own dialogue mode as the cornerstone of, now the author name it “the dialogue model of communication”. In his new model, the expression is the core,

巴赫金认为表述“是言语的基础单位”[14],把表述看作人类语言和文化行为的基本单元,围绕表述,他建立起自己重主体、重应答、莺复调的对话交际模式。这里。我们根据巴赫金对交际模式的独特理解,将其对话交际模式以图形的方式来表示:

图l 巴赫金对语交际模式

Bakhtin think that the expression "is the basic unit of speech" [14], it is the basic unit in the human language and culture behavior, focusing on that he set up his own re-main, re-response & dialogue new communication mode. Then, According to Bakhtin, his unique mode of communication for understanding the communication patterns dialogue approach this graphical to explain:

上图所示的是一个双向传播模式,结合直观的模式图,这里从五个方面予以说明:

第一,说者(作者)和受话人是交际的参与者。表述的重要特征“是它要诉诸某人,是它的针对性。表述既有作者,也有受话人”[7]181,受话人可能是实际对话的交谈者,可能是专家群体、听众、民众、同代人、对手和敌人、下属、上司、

亲朋好友、陌生人等,可能是完全不确定的他人。受话人的类型及特点,主要取决于该话语所处的人类活动和日常生活的领域。

As shown on the map is a two-way mode of transmission, combined with an intuitive model, here described from five aspects:

First, that the person (author) and if people are participants in communication. An important feature of expression "is a person to resort to it is that it's targeted. expressed both authors, but also by what people" [7] 181, who may be affected if the actual dialogue of the conversation, and may be experts groups, the audience, the public, with the generation of people, opponents and enemies, subordinates, superiors,

Friends, strangers, etc., may be completely sure of the others. If people affected by the type and characteristics, which mainly depends on the discourse of human activities and the areas of daily life.

第二,说者(作者)与受话人作为主体不断更替,在对话中既保持个性又相互影响。巴赫金直言“对于话语来说(因此也是对于人来说),最可怕的莫过于没有人应答了”。[u]336一方面,“作者具有积极的主动性”,其“主动性带有特殊的对

话性质”【4]375。另一方面,受话人对“表述的任何理解,都带有积极应答的性质(虽然这里积极的程度是千差万别的);任何理解都孕育着回答,也必定以某种形式产生回答,即听者要成为说者(‘交流思想’)”【7J151。听者、受话人的转换既表明了其相互作用和影响,也带来了言语主体的不断更替。

turnover, not only to maintain the dialogue and character interaction. Bakhtin respect "for the words (and thus also for the people), the most terrible and no one is a response." [u] 336 On the one hand, "the authors have a positive initiative", which "carries with it special initiative on

If the nature of "【4] 375. On the other hand, by the words of" statements of any understanding, both with the nature of a positive response (although here the degree of positive diverse); any understanding of all breeds to answer, this will surely lead to have answered in some form, that is said to be from the listener ( 'exchange of ideas') "【7J151. the listener, who by then the conversion is an indication of its interaction and impact, but also the continuous replacement of the main speech.

第三,对话中要考虑“统觉背景”(apperception background)。统觉背景是受话人理解具体表述的背景知识,如对情景的熟悉程度,是否拥有这一文化交际领域的专门知识,观点和信念,有什么成见、好恶等【7】182。统觉背景不仅决定表述的布局和风格,还决定受话人对表述的积极的应答性理解,即决定表述的内容。

Third, the dialogue to consider "the context of apperception" (apperception background). Apperception background, then understood by the expression of specific background knowledge, such as familiarity with the scenarios, whether the area of cultural communication expertise, views and beliefs, what prejudices, likes and dislikes, etc. 【7】 182. Apperception background not only determines the layout and style of presentation, it was also decided by the words of the expression of the positive response to the understanding that the provisions contained in the decision.

第四,他人在对话交际中具有积极作用。在对话中,除了说者(作者)和受话人表述的回应往返,还有“他人言语”即“他人表述”,它是“言语中之言语,表述中之表述”L61466。他人言语“作为另一个人的表述为说话者所思考”[61467,也就是说,对话中的说者并不是第一个说话者,在他的表述之前,已经有他人的先行表述存在,故说者的表述总是与他人表述联系在一起。

Fourth, the dialogue of others play an active role in communication. In dialogue, except to say who (the author) and subject to interpretation if the response from people, as well as "other words" the "other side" it is "speech in the language of the statements expressed in" L61466. Speech of others "as another expression of the thinking for the speaker" [61,467, that is, the dialogue that were not the first speaker, in his statements before the statements are first the existence of others, so that the expression is always linked with the statements of others.

第五,表述受社会环境影响。巴赫金指出“任何表述、任何表现的组织中心,不是在内部,而是在外部:在围绕个体的社会环境之中”,【6]445肯定了表述的深层结构取决于说话者巴赫金的对话交际模式与传播学中的循环模式类似,却

比循环模式更全面、更科学。循环模式由奥斯古德和施拉姆提出,特点是摆脱了单向传播模式的局限性,强调传播的互动性,把传播双方都看做是传播行为的主体,传播在双方的互动中往复循环,持续不断。

Fifth, the environmental impact statement by the community. Bakhtin states that "any statements, any of the organizations performance center, not in the internal, but external: in focusing on individual and social environment", 【6] 445 affirmed the statements of the speaker depends on the deep structure of the dialogue Bakhtin communication mode and communication mode in a similar cycle, but

Cycle model than a more comprehensive, more scientific. Cycle mode by Osgood and Schramm made, and there is a mode of transmission from the limitations of one-way, emphasizing the interaction between the spread of the spread is the spread of both acts as the main, the dissemination of the interaction of the two sides back and forth cycle continues

巴赫金的对话交际模式在强调互动的同时,增加了一些新的要素:一是统觉背景。统觉背景的提出充分考虑到了受话人对表述形式和表述内容的影响;二是他人表述。他人表述直接影响说者和受话人表述的内容;三是社会环境。巴赫金不仅看到了对话过程中的各种内部因素,还看到了影响对话的最为关键的外部因素即社会环境。而传播学模式对传播过程中外部因素的关注。直到1970才出现在德弗勒的互动模式中,并且德弗勒互动模式中唯一的外部因素是“噪音”,远不能概括影响传播过程的复杂的外部因素。相比较而言,巴赫金的对话交际模式,无疑

是一种令人惊异的超前思考和发现。

Dialogue Bakhtin emphasizes interactive communication mode at the same time, an increase of some new elements: First, the background apperception. Apperception sufficient background to take into account the statements by the words of the form and content of the impact statements; Second, statements of others. Statements of others that directly affect the people and subject to the provisions contained in words; Third, social environment. Bakhtin saw the process of dialogue is not only a variety of internal factors, but also to see the impact of dialogue on the most critical external factors that the social environment. Model the spread of the process of dissemination of the concerns of external factors. Until 1970, only appear in the interactive mode DeFleur and DeFleur interactive mode only the external factors are "noise", far from being able to summarize the complexity of the impact of the dissemination process of the external factors. Comparatively speaking, the dialogue Bakhtin communication mode is a kind of amazing to think and find in advance.

家园 乃这么想念我的指甲套?
家园 知道厉害鸟 差点没跑鸟

还是保持莲花本相好,指甲套属于装饰品,不得用于其它目的

家园 ^_^
家园 坚持是必要的。

动作也要持续,不过是不是应该降低强度,这要看对方是怎么样的。不过百人百态,哪有一成不变的方法啊,只能见招拆招。

希望xhar继续努力,并且继续写帖子,我也学习学习!

看看异地恋如何成功!

家园 续四,调整心态,但是却会让人失去激情

每次看到她给我的短信,我都会异常兴奋,

我的同事看到我眉飞色舞的表情都会说这小子恋爱了.

我上次去魔都没有碰到Serena,她换校区了

的确让我有点失望。

感谢TG,又给了我端午节假期

似乎这个假期她只休一天,我打算去她的城市

去看看能和她在一起吗?

处女座能和水瓶座在一起吗?

有一点压力。

朋友们,你们来指点一下我吧。

家园 心中自问,你怎样才能爱我, 续五

This is the problem.

一夜之后,端午节我从南京到上海,从上海到苏州,从苏州到杭州。

我会像梁朝伟一样傻笑

但是我还是和刘德华一样陷入深思

到底是什么?

我爱她吗?

愿意牺牲一切了吗?

我还有自我吗?

她可以很自愿和我在一起约会,吃饭,一起逛街,休息,坐车的时候也会把头放在我肩上。

但是却不愿意把手放在我的手中,到底是什么意思?

假期,我把我公司的所有中层,其实多数是高中同学;

但是结果,她还是没有给我语言上突破,始终说现在的她不适合恋爱,只能给我痛苦和悲伤,但我会在这种情形下自我陶醉和享受。

唯一可确定是我地的确确是备胎了

这也算是一个进步了吧!

问题究竟在哪里呢?


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家园 老天爷,你还没搞定呢阿

顺便膜拜一下水瓶座。这个不知道你们哪个是水瓶!!

家园 我不是

她是

我是处女座B型

她是水平座

家园 怪不得这么墨迹@@@@@

水瓶座很有挑战性。。。。。。哥们你不能一位顺从,要和她反着干啊。。。。要不她觉得你特没趣,那你可就没戏呢

家园 什么是对着干呢?

我有的时候很强硬

但是一般非原则性问题

比如说对中国男性同胞的失望

就算了

家园 抓住她的好奇心吧,一定要让她感觉你比他强势,嘿嘿

一味顺从是不会有好结果的,不要竹筒倒豆子,要学会装神秘,吊她胃口,你热乎一段冷冷看她表现。

家园 那好,就再热一阵子好了

似乎有人也这样说过

让我再组织攻势1-2个月

然后淡下半个也

看效果再说

家园 该转进了。

换个战场吧。

这已经是消耗战了。

基本是有缘无分的了。

不要强求自己了。

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