主题:【原创】新年政治经济展望之五:国债陷阱(一) -- 井底望天
就是持有当现金看待,好比我钱不存银行放自己兜里,损失点利息,应该也没有太大问题吧。
Most of modern day money is different from physical currency note. China's foreign reserve is just a few 000 in the computer system. There is no physical form any more.
China's USD dollar reserve is stored as electronic form of US federal reserve notes. When 1t dollar of notes is sold and converted into cash, you still have only 1,000,000,000,000 dollar in the computer system--after your bank sells treasury notes for you, money must be stored in the banking system as electronic deposit.
好比我钱不存银行放自己兜里,损失点利息,应该也没有太大问题吧。
--then a bank needs to give you physical note of $1t.
First, no money printing house has all those notes for you. The physical note in circulation FOR THE WHOLE US is only around $800b, if my memory is right.
Second, then you need to reserve a huge warehouse to keep all the 1T dollars... If the money is stored in States, then you get all the thieves of the world. Do not expect US polices to help you.
损失点利息--agree, but it will be in the range of 60B to 80B every year. China's central bank must shoulder this potential loss. No commercial bank want to take it.
Of course, if today's top leader does not care at all, then everything is possible and America can be coerced into some concession.
美联储可以把美元收起来控制供应量--those Jewish central bankers are very good at that trick. It is a piece of cake for them to manage the money supply. Bernanke has successfully managed the M1 since Sep 2008 and reflated the stock/real estate bubbles.
Keep in mind, the founding chair of Fed reserve was a German jewish banker immigrated to US in 1907. He became US citizen IN ONE YEAR and masterminded today's Fed Reserve...
我猜parishg的担心主要在:
1. 机会成本的损失 ---- 能赚到但没赚到的收益等同亏损。
2. 中国银行如果不放贷但同时要付息,会产生亏损,伤害中国的商业银行。
个人观点:
1. 损失的机会成本可看做一次行动的成本。只要达到目的,则可以说钱花得值。(注:收益应该是属于央行的)
2. 关于存在Bank of China. 我认为井大可能是笔误,应该存在央行--人民银行。 存在中国银行这种商业银行,确实有贷不出去产生账面亏损(政策性亏损)的问题。 另外,这笔本属于央行的美元账面怎么就能存入商业银行呢?要人大特批吗?
应该是,钱本来就是属于央行的,换回来后,还是挂在央行的账面上,所谓的“投资收益”本来就没打算要的,也不存在必须贷出去的压力,央行也没必要给自己付利息。(就好比我把一笔款子存在股票账户上但一年都没买任何股票,我“损失”了一年定期存款的利息。但是,我不在乎,还打算再扔那儿一年,也没什么啊。)
3. 卖美债换美元,不会对应产生为买汇而发出新的人民币基础货币,对中国国内的货币供应量无冲击。 (对应该发的人民币上次买汇时已经发出去了,已经在流通中)
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如果着眼于必须“贷出去”、“生息”、“产生收益”,则卖美债换回美元是不划算的,坚决不能干。
但如果前提是就不要生息,不要“投资收益”,也坚决不贷出去。则思路必然不同,不妨做他一票。更何况美债=》美元 和 美元=》美债 这两个方向上有机会做两小票,还可以考虑挣点早点钱。
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至少,可以拿个小数目试试水,如果砸下去后美国佬跳起来,那就说明砸对了,可以跟进;真要没反应也可以另外想招。
能说话的地方又不止这里
many new "buyers" from BVI, Cayman Island... Federal Reserve are not staffed by stupid Jewish bankers.
China must desert US treasury notes and keep money in cash for a long period of time to make the threat credible. Otherwise, in the short-run, federal reserve can still secretly buy treasury notes and depress the 10-year rate.
If China come back again, Wall Street firms can trick China Central Bank by ripping it off (sell high buy low). WS bankers are experts in manipulating markets.
这样逼着美国用高科技、用海外能源(比如说哈萨克那里的,上次被美国国会封杀)来换美元回去。
--you are the smartest chinese here--hit the nail on the coffin. The pity is that you are not Wen Jiabao and he lacks talents, courage, experience and gut to do what is necessary to maximize gains for China.
--It is a fight between elites of two nations and the meritcracy of US and cronyism of China. I bet many of your advices will fall on deaf ears.
现在市场上有大量法拍屋和SHORTSALE,
美国正用尽所有办法拉动房市,现在的低息贷款
对房市也有帮助。
如果30年期的房屋贷款利息上扬,
会影响到房市复苏,OBAMA会很着急的。
你没看弗里德曼什么时候来中国的,80年代早期哦
我大学任何一个拿到学位证的同学都能把他抽得飞起。
会把美国联邦财政和中国中央地方两级财政并立比较的人,就是连本科毕业都不行的水准。
指出他哪里有问题。就算揭露忽悠也不能靠谩骂。
你在井底望天后面的跟帖,没有一句实在话。只能让人怀疑你的动机了。
长期以来,你说的ccav的宣传,其实是偏向新自由主义的。井底望天属于少数派,现在才逐渐有翻盘的趋势。
你的那种被害妄想其实没有必要。讲出你的道理,自然别人会去判断去选择,如果你说的是真理别人不信,那吃亏的是他们,事实会教训他们,你用不着激动得大骂。否则让人怀疑你的人品和动机。
2T的钱不应该能产生60T的利息。
关键点是: 这不是钱的事,是下刀子逼美国佬升息。
再者,6%利息的债券拿一年,和3%利息的债券拿两年,好像区别不大。
我们等他们升息后再买回来就是了。从钱的方面也不亏啊。
这是鲁迅说的,不是我说的。
掌舵人顾忌到本小集团的利益,不敢动手。
现在美国觉得中国过分顾忌“保就业、保稳定”,以为可以以打击中国出口进而打击就业影响稳定来向中国施压。
一味防守注定要被动挨打。在挨打的时候也要找机会出动出击。
如果逼美国升息,必然打击美国的就业,都是软肋,都是痛脚。你不松手我就再加把劲。
短期,FED确实可以把财政部发的国债买下(通过加勒比基金等马甲,本质上是FED买下)。
长期这么干,会是什么后果?
另一个FED要担心的,就是中国有可能在Fed灌水灌得正起劲的某个点上,突然把自家的一大桶水也倒进去。2个T的基础货币啊。
看你不通货膨胀。