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家园 贵族,并不是养尊处优的贵

是雍容华贵的贵。

是精神的高贵。

俺爹厂里有个女的,四十多岁了。工厂改制那阵子,被厂长逼着上街练摊,卖产品。那时俺还年轻。第一眼就觉得她怎么都不像在练摊卖化工产品,象在介绍文学作品。

家园 俺的2分钱。

有一天,前院厢房的一个老太太在院子的石板上晒小鱼干。这下我和我弟弟就来兴趣了,跑过去刨根问底,主要想搞清楚在什么地方可以搞到这些鱼。当然是在前面水库里打的。但是老太太的一席话可彻底改变了我对剥削阶级的看法。她在聊天时就说:这在以前,我们根本就不吃这种小鱼。你家大舅公逢年过节都会去买大鱼给我们吃,一买就是一百担呀,中午清蒸鳜鱼,晚上红烧青鱼,哎呀你没见过呀。还要给我们新衣服。哪像现在,吃没的吃,穿没的穿。

这是在文革时期,我们在忆苦思甜教育下,知道的都是剥削阶级如何残酷剥削劳动人民。现在居然是劳动人民赞扬剥削阶级。这给我是震撼性的(年轻人可能难以想象),莫非老师都是骗人的?

也不能就说老师骗人吧?毕竟劳动人民赞扬剥削阶级不是普遍现象。

实际上我跟这些舅公、姨婆、姨公在一起,感觉到的都是一种自尊自信,那种顾盼自如,安静从容是一致的,不管他们的处境如何。有一个姨公1975年才从战犯管理所释放,我76年见他时,居然向我推荐屠格涅夫的《猎人笔记》。二十多年的囹圄生活,并没有使他猥琐卑贱。虽然面目清癯,仍然目光炯炯,那种安静平和的气质与普通人可以一望而别的。

他们这一批人都具有那种处变不惊,顾盼自如,心平气和,宽容自信,雍容大度,落落大方。。。。。。的气质,他们可能没什么财富,也可能没有权位,但是仍然有一种自信和无形的威严、和蔼。即使落魄也不会失去自己的尊严,不会着急忙慌的,仍然会有一种岳峙渊渟的气象。不会看到一点小利就走不动路。

这个是不是可以反证出共产党的监狱还是很人道的,至少战犯管理所的生活还是不错的。

家园 相比与美国的流浪汉

中国的,更敬业,哈哈

家园 要我说,你的话只说明你不知道什么叫做高贵。

高贵之先,是人人平等,这是中国人民数千年造反史奠定的实践基础:人人可以做皇帝,人人可以做宰相,人人可以做将军。

而欧洲乃至美国,除了血统就是宗教,人民被麻痹了一代又一代,哪有什么反抗心思。

中国人民其实是世界上最不好统治的人民,你看看我们历史上连绵不断的造反史就明白了,哪个国家有这么壮观的造反史?

家园 人只有经历过,才能把内心高贵的一面打磨出来

如果他原本存在在你的心中的话。

鸭子还是个孩子,如果中国千千万万和她一样顺顺利利的孩子,没有经过打磨和雕琢。

其实我私下里揣测,忙总当年也是年少飞扬的。见了,或许让人受不了的。

呵呵没恶意的乱猜

家园 不能同意

打个不客气一点的比方说,人人平等,但是人人平等地互相折磨践踏的社会,不能说是高贵的社会,平等的互相辱骂的人,也看不起自己的人,不能算是高贵的人

家园 忙总新年快乐!

身体健康阖家幸福!

家园 你没搞清楚高贵和人人平等的逻辑关系。

所谓高贵,又高又贵,那是比较得来的;

有比较就得有基准;

怎样的基准才会公平?人人平等。

有人人平等,你才可以谈高贵;

没有人人平等,高贵就是狗屎。

家园 再看一遍楼主文章

恰恰是说高贵可以和社会等级无关的

家园 那只是片段。

就拿忙总文章中某战犯的高贵来看,你可知道,功德林里战犯们思想转变之前是如何地丑态么?

家园 幸福的童年

忙总新年好。

家园 Mang zong is quite right ...

Speaking about the so called the nobles of USA, I remembered my tour of Biltmore a few years ago, and all that I saw and heard over there, as well as my thoughts about the Vanderbilts then and now.

Even in a wealthy and prosperious country like the US, very few families would surpass the Vanderbilts -- the railroads, the steel mills, the university, and even the national Bridge tournament (ACBL Championship team matches) Vanderbilt Cup.

And fortunately, we have the Biltmore House to visit, and we are able to see what it's like at the full bloom of the Gilded Age. (Usually the so called old money lives quite seclusively, for example, the many fine estates in Hudson Vally are not for the "little people" such as you and me to see).

From what I saw in Ashville that giant house of the Vanderbilts, the impression I have is not quite as Mang zong said about the nobles, none of the confidence, none of the peace of mind from deep self awareness. Rather, I saw a family of entrenched loneliness and insecure and uncertain of who they are and what they want.

They sure have things of antiquity -- the rugs of midieval castles, the chess that once owned and played by Napoloen, so on and so forth. And they have spare no cost of construct a nest of creature comfort -- the state of the art kitchen and full restaurant scale meals preparing and serving system, the full spectrum of indoor exercise and sports facility that you can dream of, including a full size in door swimming pool in the basement.

However, the pictures of the family of three -- Dad, Mom, and the later famous little Gloria, situated in the almost Cathedral sized living room, tells a story of gloomy lonesomeness. The very idea of building the largest family house in the country, according to certain rumor, is the wife of Mr. Vanderbilt (well, the son of the original capitalist who made the Vanderbilt fortune and estate) cannot bear to live under the same roof of her mother in law. And there lives only the three of them in this giant house, surrounded by hundreds of servents. And inside this castle, Mr and Mrs Vanderbilt each has his or her tower and a full set of suites of master bedroom and living rooms, and the two suites are quite apart form each other.

The loneliness of the family is more evident as I tour the quarters for the so called "family friends" -- they have full size bed rooms and living areas for each and every single one of the several dozen "friends" they invite to stay with them over the year, especially at the holiday times, on days like Thanksgiving. The "friends" are so well taken care of that when they go exercise or playing sports games, each of them have their individual locker rooms right beside the sports area of the house. Quite a few of the famous painters, writers at the time are among the "friends" that frequent the estate. We still can see the fairly impressive painting and frescos on basement walls by these friends on topics like Halloween and other things.

The urge of getting dozens and dozens of "friends" that money can buy, IMHO, greatly maginified the loneliness the family experienced, that even casual visitors like us can very easily see after 60, 70 years.

家园 This is pride of Commoner

And especially in the West and Mid-West, we can see very clearly and be quite impressed by this kind of Commoners' pride.

In CCHERE, the posts by Qi Yue Qun Shan, which I enjoy tremendously, especially the posts about the "Woodpeckers" couple and the African American Boy that was his apprentice, very concisely demonstrated what "the Commoners' pride" is all about.

And this commoners' pride, is not to be confused with the spirits and the self awareness of the nobles of the old continent.

...

From my years of living in the US, the very fascient thing about America is exactly this kind of Commoners' Pride, and it is so very different from the pride of the nobles.

To see what the pride of the nobles is all about, I would recommend a short story by Somerset Maugham: The Lion's Skin.

...

The world we live in and experience with is a 4D thing: three D being the physical space and the fourth being the time axis. From reading the beautifully versed family story of Mang zong, one can clearly feel the neat rhytum of clear stream water flows through rocks smoothed by the flowing water in time.

As the Greek said, one can never step into the same river for a second time. Such is the case about the elegance of the nobles. However fascenting and impressing, the time has changed.

...

A world of Mozart and even Chopin is no more. We are all commoners now.

家园 资治通鉴一开篇,说的就是秩序
家园 贵族

贵族这个词值得定义,有志成为新贵的人,更要定义自己的目标,到底是什么。

“贵族”这词典出哪里?河里大N出典之前,咱先摆个龙门。

1、贵族是一个族群,不是指一个人,所以,“哇!好有贵族气”,就免了。

2、贵族是几个子群中,最“贵”的那一族,所以是一个利益集团。

3、贵族是有地盘的。人贵、贵人。

4、贵族虽是册封和世袭的,但初始的权力是抢来的,贵族必定是文武双全。贵族和皇权之间是博弈、竞合的关系,所以,必定是有独立的精神、合作的规则、掀桌子的底线、共同的敌人。

5、普天下之土莫非王土,一个只有文武奴才(非职业、卖身的经理人)的国家,只会有贪官污吏,不能产生贵族;一个没有贵族的国家,一定是公民权利发展不充分的国家。所以,学而优则仕,仕而优则封,封而后夺,王土不过数百年,富贵不过三代,哪来的贵族。从整体来看,一定是贪官污吏多,忠良贤圣少,所以,才被“书香门第”这种历史上的“民间真理部”传承光大。【读书这种技艺是可以传承的】

贵族是有技艺的;贵族是有地盘的;贵族是有能力的,人贵贵人;贵族是有传承的;贵族是相对皇权博弈、竞合而存在的;贵族是代表多个族群的利益的;贵族是有娱乐精神的。贵族是承担多个族群生存发展的责任最重的一族。贵族之间也是相互竞合的关系。最后,贵族是有文化的,贵族之间是有文化认同的。(文化不单指知识、技艺)

新贵呢、暴发户呢,是不行的,比照以上,缺的太多,太可笑。

继续新年祝福,所以,大家都有机会做现代贵族!我们没有贵族的历史,但不能缺乏贵族的精神。


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