主题：某正建造航母的大国，你民主了吗？ -- 老科学的家

欧盟的对华军售禁运还没有解除嘛。

龙门吊我们可以卖，但是不能造军舰，只可以造游轮。

当年引进斯贝，也是想拉工党政府一把，结果一厢情愿了。

两小青年在后座上进行的那点事情。。。

凯迪链接

今天刚在凯迪上围观完钓上来的400多条鱼，就发现河里也有了。好久以来看到的最经典的钓鱼贴，关键是都是真的，啥航母啦，啥参加国际比赛不是一个队啦，尤其是最后引用“国外领导人”内贾德、卡扎菲同志讲话，不知道作者怎么想来的！

对了，这篇文章的原作者好像不是未名的，而是来自百度魔兽贴吧。

aircraft carrier VS. unrest society

Recently, one of the world leading powers are speedily building a emblematic aircraft carrierin a northern city.

Even if it may sink into an awkward predicament with no available Carrier-based planes after the constuction is fulfilled, still nothing can prevent it from becoming an emblem of this leading power.

This leading power has a lot more emblems, including a once-powerful-and-prosperous empire, its unique tea culture, its language once contibuted greatly to many other countries, its beautiful psalms, it being twice winner of two world wars, etc. Further more it's a permanent member state of UN Security Council.

This country deserves being proud of, because when it reached its peak, the now-No.1 United States was still a wild land.

But now, the people of this leading power has to spare no efforts to pay the bills of American consumers. This country has bought tons of American debts, and as the Economist says,"every citizen of this country has to pay 4757 Dollars for Americans' unscrupulous consumption."

Though this country styles itself as a great power, many people consider whether this country, which is not largely unified and solidarized, is qualified to be a great power---in some sport events, different parts of this country compete under different banners.

But this country delivers many black stories under it glossy surface.

While the aircraft carrier is under construction, its stabilisation authorities are oppressed with great pressure due to the serious riots. They dispel the rallies, and even are plotting to cutting some internet sites through which people express their dissatisfaction.

As Vancouver Sun comments on the 10th, the society of this country is in "pathosis"

A french commentator told BBC bluntly, this country has a "most inequal society".

The American magazine Foreign Policy said, the present rallies can remind people of what happened not long ago. The history is repeating itself.

Some state leaders indicates, this country shall face it domestic conflicts squarely, and give their people full respect. they interrogates, "What country should treat its people like this?"

Speedily construction of aircraft carrier VS. increasingly unrest society.

What good can an aircraft carrier do to a unstable country?

200多年来，中国终于和大英帝国一个待遇了，虽然只是衰弱的日不落帝国。

就这个话题谈几个感想。

1，航母是海权的象征。作为经济与贸易全球化重要一环的中国，不论是为了保护海运通道，还是为了保障能源与原材料供应，海权必须掌握在自己手里。换个角度看，英国作为曾经的日不落帝国和航母的发明国，今天已经造不起也用不起航母了（英法将共享航母），恰恰说明了它在全球化产业链中的地位不再那么重要。当然，英国仍在金融，科技，军事三大支柱中控制着两大支柱，虽然总体地位下降，却仍占据食物链的高端。

2，中国地理位置特殊，既是欧亚大陆的东端，也是太平洋的西岸，是世界上少有的同时具有海权与陆权的大国。高铁作为未来中欧中俄贸易的通道，可以减轻中国对海洋（即航母）的依赖，也就减少了对美国的依赖。铁路集装箱将是铁道部改革的一个重点领域。

3，全球化发展到今天，中国占据了大多数低端和相当一部分中端领域，量很大但利润不高，工人分享的利益有限。英国占据了金融IT等高端，但制造业空心化日益突出，产业工人流失严重，失业率上升。中欧美各国在产业链位置上的剧烈变动，恰恰是各国社会稳定的不安因素。中国要想进入高端，必然会引起他国的反弹。除了自身产业的努力外，航母的保驾护航是必须的。所以航母是社会维稳的重要手段。

4，中国与英国的维稳困境，是全球化与信息化的必然结果。一方面全球化引起各国产业结构剧烈变动，另一方面INTERNET的兴起使得传统的金字塔型管理快速转向扁平化管理。不论是公司还是国家治理，不能适应这一转型过程必然会发生动荡。

Thomas Friedman最新的一篇文章值得推荐：

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/14/opinion/sunday/Friedman-a-theory-of-everyting-sort-of.html?_r=1&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

能在下锅之前让我死个明白么？

　　从中国买只是经济上比较划算而已。

　　中国卖给它，它能用较便宜的价格买到，在这方面的研发肯定会放松，那么经几代后它这方面的技术实力就完蛋了。

　　英国当年也有过类似的讨论，就是先进军舰卖不卖给可能会成为敌人的国家，最后的结论是卖比不卖好处多。

据称，继“无敌”号后，英国打算以350万英镑的低价出售造价2亿英镑的“皇家方舟”号航母，另外被甩卖的还包括总价值4亿英镑的“22”型护卫舰，这种军舰的处理单价为30万英镑，而驱逐舰的卖价为100万英镑。当然被贱卖的不只是海军装备，还有当年单价500万英镑的13架“瞪羚”直升机，现在将被以10万英镑的总价拍卖。