主题：【整理原创】朝鲜战争中的细菌战（系列终结篇） -- 思炎

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我实在搞不懂质疑的人真的认真看了所有贴吗？

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思炎女士，这样的盲目引用是不太好喔

回答你之前，建议某些ID（不针对你一人），认真的看一下这个系列贴，包括回复，还有贴中的纪录片。

有疑问，没有问题，请发出有建设性的讨论，盲目发问质疑乱引用也是不太好喔。

对于那些故意东一茬，西一棒，混淆视听的ID，我是懒得再浪费时间。

请问思炎哪里有这份JCS 1837/26 文件可以叁考？

Anyway，你的贴很令 [ yfb ] 欣赏，并引用你的发问。上来一看，那个[ yfb ]当了搬运工，把这份文件贴上来了。。。很好很好，省我时间了。

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那么，这里起码可以看到第五条：

A more vigorous test program including large-scale field test should be determine the effectiveness of specific BW agents under operation conditions.

注意你也犯了个错误，其实不用跟你引用的Endicott文章扯起来的。我给的是如下，是纪录片《肮脏的小秘密》中的截屏：

A third crucial document – marked “Top Secret” – showed that in September 1951, the US Joint Chiefs of Staff issued orders to begin “large scale field tests… to determine the effectiveness of specific BW [bacteriological warfare] agents under operational conditions.”

If these “field tests” were indeed undertaken, then they may have drawn again on the expertise of the Japanese biological warfare team.

还要注意的是，这个文件是第三份秘密文件，有些有关细菌战的文件美国隐藏，没有公布（或可能销毁）。这里还有一个要注意的词是AGAIN。

还有这里用了：determine the effectiveness 一词，细菌武器是否能成为协同全面作战的武器，它的有效性，可行性只有在战场上测试才知道。我主帖中已经写了：

1952年9月，他们向政府报告说，他们把极度致命的、稳定、可行、易传播、成本低、产生疫情的生物武器放置到全面战争能力的计划并不成功

并且，就算你引用的Endicott的文章，他的文章中也对文件时间做了说明：

At the meeting for what was described as the covert implementation of Takeoff,on 3 October 1951, the service personnel were hesitant, even a little suspicious. Army General John Magruder confessed that he had delayed forwarding the plan to the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Although the documents carried a memo saying that it was an approved plan, the representative of the Pentagon wanted to know why there was no formal indication of this fact on the plan itself. Why was there no box carrying the facsimile signature of the person in authority? Why was there no indication that the plan was a numbered paper in the series of PSB formal papers?' After receiving assurances, General Magruder indicated to the meeting that he would 'probably forward the plan for action tomorrow.' (29) An uneasiness, an air of reluctance, was clearly evident.

Four days later, in accordance with 'an oral directive,' three Army colonels left Washington for a top secret trip to see General Ridgway, commander-in-chief of the Far East Command in Tokyo. (30) We do not know whether this trip was part of TAKEOFF. Perhaps it was a chance event. But in another coincidence, when US Air Force Colonel Andrew J. Evans, Jr., who had previously worked in the War Plans Division, was shot down by the Chinese in 1953, he told his captors that planning for the BW campaign in Korea had begun in October 1951. His statement was corroborated by another high ranking POW, Colonel Frank H. Schwable, chief of staff of the Marine air wing when he was shot down in Korea, who added that the Joint Chiefs of Staff had sent [their] directive by hand to General Ridgway in October 1951, ordering the initiation of bacteriological warfare in Korea on an initially small, experimental stage but in expanding proportions.(31)。。。。

。。。。There are further grounds to ask the question whether the anxiety around TAKEOFF related to biological warfare. As nervous rumblings about the operation continued into late November 1951, there was a flap about 'statements concerning Novel Weapons. Some serious reservations about TAKEOFF continued, from Secretary of Defense Lovett down through the military staff. But the director of the Psychological Strategy Board, former secretary of the army Gordon Gray, presumably with presidential backing, continued to push. The Joint Chiefs of Staff eventually approved the plan 21 December 1951 and reported that implementing plans have been prepared and are in the hands of operating agencies. (35)

纪录片中还说到：at the time, American was only fighting one war - Korean , if the order by Jiont Chef Staffs obeyed, there was only one battel where the biological weapon could be tested.

从文件的时间1951年九月，到中朝指责美军动员细菌战的时间是从：1952年一月。时间上根本没有你所说的问题，而是吻合。

美国参谋长联席会议的指令是得到执行的，也的确如这份文件中所说的，日本731细菌部队也参与了。

“国际科学委员会”的报告的结论是：“朝鲜及中国东北的人民，确已成为细菌武器的攻击目标；美国军队以许多不同的方法使用了这些细菌武器，其中有一些方法，看起来是把日军在第二次世界大战期间进行细菌战所使用的方法加以发展而成的”。

并且在纪录片中，前日军731人员也证实了美国征调前日军“731部队”及“100”细菌部队罪恶累累的战犯及成员参与了朝鲜战争细菌战。其中包括， Shiro Ishii、Kitano Misaji、Colonel Ohta等。

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纪录片《肮脏的小秘密》自己看一下，还有我这个主贴里的美国PBS的纪录片：

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- 🙂好了，自己抽自己不要搞的上瘾哦。 yfb 字359 2010-04-05 15:12:51
- 🙂给你补充上那个短片中提到美国军方在朝鲜战争期间关于在战场 2 思炎字817 2010-04-04 17:21:03
  - 🙂请问 Light 字2278 2010-04-06 03:55:24
    🙂我实在搞不懂质疑的人真的认真看了所有贴吗？
    🙂呵呵， MM，都到这份上来还在这里狡辩？真是很有勇气嘛。 yfb 字1470 2010-04-06 16:59:47
    🙂请问思炎网友，您到底看过那纪录片没有？ 1 Light 字5744 2010-04-07 00:35:46
    🙂你才混水摸鱼。说废话，美军要把细菌武器放置为全面战争思炎字1239 2010-04-06 17:10:33
    🙂蠢材，我问你的问题怎么从头至尾一个都不不敢答啊？ yfb 字1259 2010-04-06 17:47:04

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