主题：【讨论】对总经理述职报告的部分内容的简单解读 -- wqnsihs
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家园 那些想把中国作为一个听话印度加入世界的人最终不可能成功 因为他们选择的道路不符合绝大部分中国人的利益。不过，他们可以对中国造成足够的破坏，因为他们有外部支持，并且组织的比所有国内派别都要好。
家园 China is not a leader yet and do not have the capability to lead the world yet.
China should solve its internal injustice, inequality and income disparity first before any global ambition. Without domestic peace, it can not even be a sound regional leader at all.
Start your empire slowly. America first controlled North/Latin America, before it landed on a global empire path.
http://www.ccthere.com/article/2553383
For a nation that still can not build a car motor by itself, 30-year growth is just one small step towards better global status. The key now is to improve the life of its own citizens.
"Obey before you command"
"Learn before you lead"-okay?
China is still a primary school student, though very diligent. DO NOT WASTE TIME DREAMING OF REPLACING THIS AMERICA-LED system. China could not create a better system to lead the world, even at the regional level(it has no expertise in empire-building as well as economic management. Look at its 2009 man-made real estate bubble and 2010 hyperinflation... Can not help shaking my head at this kind of stupidity). Further disruption of the current global system will bring in large fall in global output and living standards.
http://www.ccthere.com/article/2620776
http://www.ccthere.com/article/2595070
Read the 3rd last paragraph.
After WWII, the world is short of global trade payment tool and America is still an trade surplus nation. How to promote global trade and recovery in Europe with constant surplus? Americans created Marshall plan, World Bank and IMF to finance global trade payment. That's something nobody tried before.
Think creatively. That's American's strength and Asian's weakness. Asians are still obsessed with physical gold now.
Again, under the America-led global division-of-labor system, the world has reached its output/efficiency/world-trade/employment/GDP-level/min-inflation PEAK.
After peak, YOU SHOULD PRAY THAT THE CONTRACTION IS SLOW AND LESS PAINFUL. If we got a 1929-1931 contraction of 25% to 30%, then you will only see war in the end.
I can only pray that technology revolution come a bit early so that productive capacity destruction will not happen. While, it is in God's hand now.
Up till now, Federal Reserve has handled the financial matters with great capability, in comparison with its performance in 1929-1931. When it comes to finance, nobody can beat American WASP-Jewish elites. You know empire hisotry well, any nation without the sincere assistance of Jewish bankers will not achieve its empire dream.
So is China. An Chinese empire can not be built purely by Chinese talents, let alone China has lost lots of its own talents to the outside world and still is still so mean to its own compatriots.
家园 那这个咋办？老大洞若观火啊 I can only pray that technology revolution come a bit early so that productive capacity destruction will not happen. While, it is in God's hand now.靠我们自身几乎没有可能性的吧。指望日本吧，历史问题摆在那。指望欧美俄吧，能给你的已经差不多都给你了。能山寨的已经山寨的差不多了，大飞机也快出來了。怎么办？准备打仗？So is China. An Chinese empire can not be built purely by Chinese talents, let alone China has lost lots of its own talents to the outside world and still is still so mean to its own compatriots.这三十年只是结束普遍文盲后一次小型核聚变。而中国人的能量大伙都看到了，在这样信息化时代，假如这样的问题能够解决，假如人尽其才的梦想能够实现，中国的未来将非常非常可观。可是实现不了怎么办？搞民主吧要完蛋，不搞吧，没有竞争压力人家干嘛要人才啊，奴才多的要是。
家园 他们不是少数
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家园 “作为一个听话印度”？谈何容易？印度十亿国民可以 鸦雀无声；会有十亿鸦雀无声的中国老百姓吗？除非那些人能把十亿中国老百姓引到恒河去洗澡...
家园 其实中国老百姓是很听话的 有吃有喝有老婆外加一点娱乐，绝大部分人就是这么过一辈子的。至于不甘心的，那种neo一样性格的人，要么在很早就自己夭折掉（王千源、柴玲一样的，看起来的确有一定能力，但是上来就走歪了），要么吸收到体制内（大大小小的官僚），大致上就是这样了。
家园 这个命题其实是牵涉到中国核心价值观的 你要说中国老百姓善良吧,那的确是非常善良的,512时西方赌咒解放军是一样会带武器的,因为灾害面前人性的丑恶面会暴露,结果现实的情况让西媒眼镜碎了一地,所以2012的导演说512让他感觉人类未来还有希望的确应该是内心真实想法的流露.
你要说不善良吧,8平方,瓮安,打砸抢烧总有那么点关系,农村之间的械斗更是普通城市人无法想象的,就算是千夫所指的城管,要是落单被个老大娘缠上,那也指不定落个脸上开花的下场.或许你会说有压迫就有反抗,那这不就和你说的老百姓很听话相矛盾了嘛,呵呵.
跟印度那些交不起租宁可闭门上吊自杀也不去找有钱人麻烦的农民相比,中国人民,那可"彪悍"得多了.不过说实话,争论老百姓"听话不听话",这问题本身就够无聊的,中国人一个人是龙,一群人是虫的说法,相信很多人深以为然,殊不知这只是对中国文化半桶水的人的管中窥象.圣贤为什么要把"王侯将相宁有种乎"这句话传下来?为什么中国从古至今都要把"民心"放在舆论道德的最高点?无万世江山,亦无万世之法,唯勤能补拙,学以致用而已.
家园 实际上我们无非是说了一个事情的多面 要是全面的说，鲁迅已经说的很清楚了。
家园 中国人最听话不到万不得已活不下去时不会有动作的。 家园 可是中国人缺少了200年殖民＋恒河水的“驯化” ‘那些人’正是相信：中国人只要有饭吃，不饿肚子，就不会造反；于是‘让一部分人先富起来’就变成了贫富差距、两极分化的世界之最。
至于不甘心的，那种neo一样性格的人，要么在很早就自己夭折掉（王千源、柴玲一样的，看起来的确有一定能力，但是上来就走歪了），要么吸收到体制内（大大小小的官僚），大致上就是这样了。这些人实在不值一提！
我也许不能真正理解60年前中国到底发生了什么事。但是，为她奋斗的老一辈还没有全死光呢！
家园 你和天行者说的都很好 希望中国人民不断的挑战官僚的底线，至少这将不再是一个轮回。
家园 说中华民族懦弱、缺乏革命精神、闭关守旧，这是个 well-known的伪命题。
这个话题展开来会非常宏大，但是对一个在2000多年前就呼喊过“王侯将相，宁有种乎”的民族，断言其缺乏革命精神是危险的。同样，在生活习惯上，中华民族也是易于而且乐于接受外来新鲜事物，改变传统习俗的，从我们起居、饮食习惯的变迁上可以看出来。
我国和欧美民族性的不同，似乎主要集中在社会运营模式上，欧洲由于长期的诸侯封建制，信奉社会契约，强调权力制衡。而我国由于长期大一统的帝国制度，更信奉权力意志，强调当权者的道德修养和自我约束(所谓贤、仁)。但是说到创新进取的革命精神，看不出中华民族在这方面有任何逊色。
家园 我到了广东后，才明白什么叫做“富有革命传统” 这里的农民文化实在是太强悍了
