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    • 家园 出面支持,人口问题再这么应付下去,日本的今天有可能就是

      天朝的明天。

    • 家园 这次土共大规模撤侨,现在看来很有意味。。
    • 家园 阿盟批评禁飞区,警惕美帝新技俩

      阿拉伯国家联盟秘书长阿姆鲁·穆萨(Amr Moussa)批评说:实施禁飞区的目标是避免伤害平民,但现在的空袭造成了更多的平民伤害。

      正如此前利比亚系列分析的,置卡扎菲不管,将短期内足以严重损害美帝在中东的战略利益。奥巴马政府不是看不到这一点,而是采取了更曲折隐蔽的间接策略。即威逼利诱阿盟支持禁飞区,美欧+阿盟联手压服其余安理会国家,然后由英法出面执行。

      即便仅有美帝支持,中国行使否决权可能性也不大,阿盟出面之后,中国就更不可能行使否决权了--中国石油进口很大部分来自沙特。

      现在看起来,美帝胃口、牙口好得很呢。短期内,奥巴马的阿拉伯民主化会在形式上获得进展。而且这种民主化在美帝强盛的时代,都不会显得过于绿化--人家穆斯林兄弟会已经公开表态不参选么。

      但是人家兄弟会在等待时机。10年,20年,30年人家等得起。人家的目标是把世俗国家转化为回教法国家--这么浩大且不可逆的工程,人家可以失败1000次,还活蹦乱跳,而他们的对手只要失败1次,就彻底歇菜了。

      短期谁也争不过美国。

      时间本来在中国方面--如果没有计划生育政策的话。现在时间是对中国最不利的因素。中国经济政策、人口结构处处学日本。想避免日本的下场,不亦难乎?

      现在看来,由于劳动力不足,中国迟早会爆发实体经济危机(不考虑金融危机--金融危机是可以修复的)。只要60后开始退休,养老危机就会爆发(养老保险体系现在已入不敷出了);70后退休,实体经济彻底垮掉,同时民族生存危机爆发。少民新一代长大,而此时美国衰落,那么绿色国家核武大概会泛滥了。如果他们从国外偷偷运来几枚核地雷,埋藏在中国北京上海广州等若干大城市,同时引爆,你敢对所有绿色国家宣战吗?如果人家说是你国内的内乱分子偷了你国内的核武器造成的后果呢?即便宣战,你有几个兵可用呢?对于这种威胁,弹道导弹防御系统有啥用呢?

      四月将近,看中国人口普查结果如何。现在计生委已理屈词穷了,采用了无耻、无理由的拖延策略--多拖一天即多罚款一天。但是,拖延将使1970-75这一大批人丧生最后的生育机会--这些人经济状况是比较好的,生育是承担得起的。

      中国的精英移民在加速。官员也好,企业主也好,中产也好,能逃的都想逃。

      中国汉族人的后代出生已减少75%(由顶峰的3000万/年减少至800万/年)的中国,需要何等的无耻和无知才能继续执行计划生育政策。人类历史上从来没有一个社会敢于推行这么悖天理,违人伦的政策,今后也不会有。

      上天有好生之德,凡是倒霉事,都让日本人先体验一遍。但奈何中国的精英不领悟!

      祸至无日矣!

      TRIPOLI (Reuters) - Western forces pounded Libya's air defences and patrolled its skies on Sunday, but their day-old intervention hit a serious diplomatic setback as the Arab League chief condemned the "bombardment of civilians."

      Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi vowed to defeat the Western powers' "terrorism" and sent his troops and tanks into the rebel-held coastal city of Misrata, residents said.

      European and U.S. forces unleashed warplanes and cruise missiles against Gaddafi on Saturday in a United Nations-backed intervention to prevent the veteran leader from killing civilians as he fights an uprising against his 41-year rule.

      But Arab League chief Amr Moussa said what was happening was not what Arabs had envisaged when they called for the imposition of a no-fly zone over Libya.

      "What is happening in Libya differs from the aim of imposing a no-fly zone, and what we want is the protection of civilians and not the bombardment of more civilians," he said.

      In comments carried by Egypt's official state news agency, Moussa also said he was calling for an emergency Arab League meeting.

      Arab backing for a no-fly zone provided crucial underpinning for the passage of the U.N. Security Council resolution last week that paved the way for the Western intervention, the biggest against an Arab country since the 2003 invasion of Iraq.

      Withdrawal of that support would make it much harder to pursue what some defense analysts say could in any case be a difficult, open-ended campaign with an uncertain outcome.

      The U.S. Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Admiral Mike Mullen, said the no-fly zone was effectively in place. But he told CBS the endgame of military action was "very uncertain" and acknowledged it could end in a stalemate with Gaddafi.

      Mullen said he had seen no reports of civilian casualties from the Western strikes. But Russia said there had been such casualties and called on Britain, France and the United States to halt the "non-selective use of force."

      The aerial assault stopped in its tracks the advance by Gaddafi's troops into the eastern city of Benghazi, and left the burned and shattered remains of his tanks and troop carriers littering the main road outside the rebel stronghold.

      The charred bodies of at least 14 government soldiers lay scattered in the desert.

      "Gaddafi is like a chicken and the coalition is plucking his feathers so he can't fly. The revolutionaries will slit his neck," said Fathi Bin Saud, a 52-year-old rebel carrying a rocket-propelled grenade launcher, surveying the wreckage.

      Gaddafi said the raids amounted to terrorism and vowed to fight to the death. "We will not leave our land and we will liberate it," he said on state television. "We will remain alive and you will all die."

      A Libyan government health official said the death toll from the Western air strikes had risen to 64 on Sunday after some of the wounded died. But it was impossible to independently verify the reports as government minders refused to take Western reporters in the capital Tripoli to the site of the bombings.

      Residents said forces loyal to Gaddafi entered the center of the rebel-held city of Misrata on Sunday with tanks, and several people had been killed by gunfire. "Two people were killed so far today by snipers. They (snipers) are still on the rooftops. They are backed with four tanks, which have been patrolling the town. It's getting very difficult for people to come out," one resident, called Sami, told Reuters by telephone.

      "There are also boats encircling the port and preventing aid from reaching the town."

      Abdelbasset, a spokesman for the rebels in Misrata, told Reuters: "There is fighting between the rebels and Gaddafi's forces. Their tanks are in the center of Misrata ... There are so many casualties we cannot count them."

      "ODYSSEY DAWN"

      French planes fired the first shots of the intervention on Saturday, destroying tanks and armored vehicles near Benghazi. The eastern city is the cradle of the anti-Gaddafi revolt that started last month, inspired by Arab uprisings that toppled the leaders of Tunisia and Egypt.

      France sent an aircraft carrier toward Libya and its planes were over the country again on Sunday, defense officials said. Britain said its planes had targeted Libya's air defences mainly around the capital Tripoli.

      U.S. and British warships and submarines launched 110 Tomahawk missiles overnight against air defences around the capital Tripoli and Misrata, U.S. military officials said.

      They said U.S. forces and planes were working with Britain, France, Canada and Italy in operation "Odyssey Dawn." Denmark said it had four fighter planes ready to join in on Sunday and was awaiting U.S. instructions.

      Gaddafi said all Libyans had now been armed to defend the country and Western defeat was inevitable. Libya's state news agency said more than a million men and women would be armed.

      China and Russia, which abstained in the U.N. Security Council vote last week endorsing intervention, expressed regret at the military action. China's Foreign Ministry said it hoped the conflict would not lead to a greater loss of civilian life.

      Explosions and heavy anti-aircraft fire rattled Tripoli in the early hours of Sunday. Defiant cries of "Allahu Akbar" (God is Greatest) echoed around the city center.

      Libyan state television showed footage from an unidentified hospital of what it called victims of the "colonial enemy." Ten bodies were wrapped up in white and blue bed sheets, and several people were wounded, one of them badly, the television said.

      The mood in Tripoli turned markedly anti-Western, and crowds shouted defiant slogans and shot in the air.

      APPREHENSION AND RELIEF

      Tripoli residents said they had heard an explosion near the eastern Tajoura district, while in Misrata they said strikes had targeted an airbase used by Gaddafi's forces.

      The Western intervention, after weeks of diplomatic wrangling, was welcomed in Benghazi with a mix of apprehension and relief.

      "We salute France, Britain, the United States and the Arab countries for standing with Libya. But we think Gaddafi will take out his anger on civilians. So the West has to hit him hard," said civil servant Khalid al-Ghurfaly, 38.

      Benghazi's main hospital was filled with men, women and children wounded in Saturday's assault on the city by Gaddafi's forces. There were 24 bodies, including eight government troops, visible in the morgue, and more were stored in refrigerators.

      French President Nicolas Sarkozy said the allies had agreed to use "all necessary means, especially military" to enforce the Security Council resolution for an end to attacks on civilians.

      Some analysts have questioned the strategy for the military intervention, fearing Western forces might be sucked into a long civil war despite a U.S. insistence, repeated on Saturday, that it has no plans to send ground troops into Libya.

      (Reporting by Mohammed Abbas and Angus MacSwan in Benghazi, Maria Golovnina and Michael Georgy in Tripoli, Hamid Ould Ahmed and Christian Lowe in Algiers; Tom Perry in Cairo, John Irish and Elizabeth Pineau in Paris, Missy Ryan in Washington, Writing by Mark Trevelyan and Jon Hemming)

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      • 家园 不管何种帖子主题都能扯到计划生育上面去

        以前真是低估了种植园土的执着。

      • 家园 请问园主,中国粮食问题如何解决?

        园主每言必称计划生育该废,但是园主是否考虑过如果中国没有自七十年代末实行计划生育,中国目前会有多少人口(据估算约17-19亿左右),而这些人口每年需要多少粮食(包括口粮和提供肉蛋奶的禽畜所需的饲料粮)?据估计按照粮食计算,中国的国土只能承载约18-20亿人口,如不进行计划生育中国人口约会在2025-2030年达到20亿。请问园主如不进行计划生育中国人口达到20亿并还在增长时粮食问题如何处理?

        关键词(Tags): #计划生育 粮食
        • 家园 你这是 转移辩题。 只生一个是自我基因灭绝

          你提到粮食问题,仿佛现在一旦放开就会导致人口爆炸一样, 基于这样的假设来质疑粮食的供应。园土兄和你讨论粮食问题就被引导一个不可能到达尽头的辩论。

          真的要辩论,你必须假设同意园土兄的观点, 不过由于粮食供应可能存在问题, 所以不得不加以妥协。

          每对夫妻只生一个, 很显然是一个惨绝人寰的政策, 临时用用也就算了, 还成为基本国策,TG脑残, 可见一斑。园土兄从经济文化角度,我则从基因灭绝角度反对。从2001年起我就在猫眼看人等网站呼吁放松甚至取消计划生育。 因为推动人类社会前进的是智商才能超卓之士,而每对夫妻只生一个的政策毫无疑问将50%的优秀基因白白消失在基因的长河中。这个损失是永远无法避免的。中国托太祖之福, 早年的精英大都有兄弟姐妹, 还保留部分优秀基因组合, 但时光流逝, 再过1代,所能保留的就不多了。

          现在放开计划生育, 部分夫妻生两个,部分生三个,估计大部分城市夫妻依旧生一个,主要是妇女的工作问题和孩子的抚养问题, 没有大家庭的支持,一般夫妇是不可能生几个小孩的。现在城市的高房价早就迫使城市夫妻的自我灭绝--8421的序列缓慢但不可逆转地进行。担心人口爆炸在逻辑上不成立。 退一步讲,TG讲究摸着石头过河。 对全面放开又担心,可以在部分城市试点, 过5年来检讨人口出生率。

          • 家园 您这才是转移辩题呢

            首先我的说法是如果没有计划生育中国人口会超过粮食生态承载线。园主说反对计划生育,我赞同计划生育,而且我给出了原因,我看不出我怎么转移辩题了。但您却把议题转到基因灭绝这方面来,您这才是转移辩题呢。

            您的基因灭绝理论有问题,“每对夫妻只生一个的政策毫无疑问将50%的优秀基因白白消失在基因的长河中”。您的意思是说只要父母多生孩子就能把父母的优良基因全都继承下来。这是定性定向遗传啊,谁要是把这研究透了估计拿个诺贝尔奖是没有一点问题的。

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