主题：【讨论】了解一下臭港人的思维逻辑，才会懂为啥会闹这么久 -- 别看我矮
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家园 神了，【匿名】联署 既然匿名，那还【署】什么？
谁支的这个招？ 该不是轮子吧？ 他们搞的 “退党”，已经一个多亿了？
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家园 做梦，500行政主任对比3千多总数有多少？更何况其中水分 还不小。前几天鼓噪的港铁集体罢工，结果又是流料吹嘘，就是利用假新闻绑架大多数，最后港铁车长通告没这回事。
家园 香港政务司司长张建宗在记者会上表示 香港行政主任，是港府最忠心的团队，他们是香港公务员中的专业管理人员，分布在各个政府部门，500多名行政主任联署，约占所有行政主任的一成多
26日下午，香港政务司司长张建宗在记者会上表示，星期日有暴徒在元朗西铁站及街头肆意袭击手无寸铁的市民，其行为“令人发指”，他对此事件完全不能接受。他并首度承认，警方对此事件的处理手法与公众的期望之间“有落差”，他说，如果公众要求政府对此承担责任，“我觉得责无旁贷，我绝对愿意为处理手法向市民道歉”。他同时表示，向事件中受伤的市民致以“深切慰问”。家园 这政务司长的话我该如何解读啊 星期日元朗的暴徒是指白衣本地居民么，手无寸铁的市民是指搞事黑衣人么？如果是这样的话，这个言论和香港新闻现场直播的口径倒是一致的。我来描述下当时的情景，一群白衣人手持棍棒在地铁和车厢里驱逐暴打黑衣人，黑衣人撑伞后退抵抗（其实我一开始以为黑衣人是游客来的，直播就说他们是游客）。
家园 不满可以辞职啊，500政府官员一起辞职，给特首作个榜样 中央还省掉反攻倒算，清洗政府的罪名。两全其美
家园 特首不是说了是中央不让辞 这些事态出现说明特首对内部已经失控了，或者一部分人已经听到风声了，当了墙头草。
- 待认可未通过。偏要看
家园 一部分人一直是墙头草 根据《香港特别行政区基本法》规定，香港行政长官每届任期五年，可连任一次。如行政长官在任期完成之前因故离职，继任人应在六个月内产生。当出缺（或休假）时，会依次由政务司司长、财政司司长、律政司司长署任。2005年，全国人民代表大会常务委员会以解释基本法方式说明补选的行政长官只是完成前任余下的任期。在出访外国时，行政长官在多种情况下可以享受副国级的待遇。政务司司长是顺位二号人物，出来反对政府，就是要特首下台。
家园 如此，这位司长这个时候出头 当然是因为看到了上位的机会，问题是第一，林郑有下台的信号么，不是中央坚定站台么。 二是，即使换人，新特首难道不要中央背书么，这个时候反戈一击，说明两个可能：
一种是他不在乎中央背书了，那就是说他看到什么下任特首不需要中央背书的机会了，那么还有什么机会，又不是独立，只能是双普选，港人内部选出特首。这个司长这个时候站出来投机一把，放着前途不要，奋力一搏，成为改制推手，把自己送上台。
另一个更大的可能性，他也是在中央授意下出头，攻击林郑，那么说明中央已经开始准备换人了。
当然还一种可能，他与林郑分属中央两派，进入面对面交火状态，胜负未分。
不论哪种，这个司长都不可能是临时起意，随性而至的说这番话。
家园 林郑不立即解任他，他就没有政治风险 再怎么说，看到警民冲突，很痛心，觉得作为个人应该说话属于政治正确。老油条不傻。
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家园 500人？ 几个签名的？都戴着口罩呢！
这样畏畏缩缩没一点担当的人，多十倍又如何？
家园 你这个逻辑不完整，结论也行不通 建立隔离区就可以当鸵鸟，然后天下太平了？那才只是噩梦的开始，这一条路是绝对走不通的。
这其中的逻辑是，如果没有办法恢复香港的稳定，给世人留下的就是香港动乱的声明，那么tg不作为，就是对所有声明中的恶名都是照章接受了，而且更甚，居然还“不思悔改”，却去“偏安一隅”，你这是大涨他人志气，灭自己威风啊，那么别人得了理还会饶人么，换位你自己想想会怎么做。
接下来，世界舆论一定会重量级轰炸tg，支持香港，因为你自己都不做为，那就是默认示威有理了么。然后呢，在人设排名表上就可以把tg列在俄朝伊之后了，那么还提什么毛衣站，直接属于制裁范畴了。
到了那个时候，你再说出兵维护主权，镇压你自己都接受有理的示威，是不是面子里子一起输，效果是火上添油，把别人要做还没做的自己先都做了。
所以说一尊虽然能忍，但是这种里外联手的局面他只能说是一筹莫展，但绝不是不做为的借口。那么既然不想出兵，靠元朗又不跟趟，解铃还须系铃人，只能回头去找美国人，是不是在这等着呢。
如果这个大棋真是如你所说这么下的，那么还真是被逼到了墙角。谈贸易，你拿出民族主义的武器，那么就给你一个真刀真枪打民族主义牌的机会，肿么还不动手呢。就像大梭哈，一路bluff上去，对手不信，就是要看你底牌。
所以呢，如果不提外部势力，一尊还有些辗转腾挪的空间，香港的事还有许多想象空间可以画各种美丽图画，你偏这么一口咬定是蓬皮奥下的手脚，一根绳与毛衣站连在一起，你这是给投降派布局呢，逼跪一尊，知道其不敢流血。这大棋下的。
家园 用什么价值观去塑造香港人的未来？ 社会形态组成不光是吃喝拉撒的物质生活和资料生产，它还有为所有人类共同追求的思想、政治、文化、艺术等精神生活，这些才是人之构成社会人的灵魂所在。
对此你大陆政权除了让“利“又还能为香港人提供出什么思想产品？回归二十多年来，香港社会除了西方殖民时代所打造的价值体系，这些回归后长大的新生代还能到哪去寻找自己的根？
只知纵容小孩物质金线欲望，却无暇与之有思想交流，生在如此家庭环境下的孩子本就是一种悲哀。
记得内地经济还远为落后的九十年代，窦唯张楚他们的搖滚音乐就能火爆香港红磡体育馆。
作为亚洲流行文化前沿之地，香港年轻人为之折服的是窦唯他们带来的思想共鸣，而现在窦唯成仙、何勇已疯，香港年轻人更是遍地废材。
改开几十年经过物质财富积累阶段后，内陆社会形态终究要过民主自由的资本主义意识形态关。这个历史不会因人的意志为转移，既然你已选定市场经济的发展方式。。
家园 哈哈哈，谁给你的脸代表西方舆论？进来看西方舆论 https://eurasiafuture.com/2019/07/16/is-hong-kong-destined-to-be-the-venice-of-asia/
Is Hong Kong Destined to be The Venice of Asia?
At the height of its trading and shipping prowess, the Republic of Venice was arguably the most commercially successful place in the world. Its advantageous location at the western end of the traditional silk road, its shipping connections to multiple great trading routes to Asia and its vital role as Europe’s major trading port of entry helped to make Venice both a prosperous and pleasant society.
Unfortunately for the Venetians, the opening up of Atlantic trading routes in the late 15th century and the rise of new commercial/military powers in both Europe and west Asia lead to the small Republic’s eventual decline. Venice’s fall from geo-economic importance was gradual but by the time the Republic of Venice had ceased to be in the age of Napoleon, the wider world had long moved on.
Before China’s Reform and Opening Up, before the rise of Lee Kuan Yew’s Singapore, before Japan’s post-war recovery and South Korea’s economic miracle there was Hong Kong. As Britain became ever less interested in the world “east of Suez”, Hong Kong was politically a relic of a bygone age but its internal economic development took the world by storm.
The rise of Hong Kong to the position of a major financial and trading centre owed much to the same innovative and hard working Chinese characteristics that transformed the mainland after 1978. Indeed, by the late 1970s both Hong Kong and the former British colony of Singapore were small places whose economic weight began to embarrass those in a Britain that looked all together broken during that same period in time.
When Hong Kong was reunited with the rest of China in 1997, its economic dynamism continued and indeed still continues to play an important part in a China that now has at least a dozen economic super-cities. But as the world continues to change, recent extremist protests in Hong Kong have demonstrated that some Hong Kong people are interested in looking to an imagined past rather than adapting to the future.
Whether calling for the internationally discredited and woefully unpopular liberalism that has been shunned even in the places of its conception (think Britain’s Brexit and America’s Trump), holding a colonial era flag amid a desecrated legislative chamber or attacking fellow Chinese from other parts of the vast country, the petty obscurantist parochialism of the Hong Kong protesters is not only bad for present day business but it is bad for Hong Kong’s long term future growth and development.
Whilst Venice was in many ways too small to adapt to a changing Europe and whilst its small size prohibited it from competing militarily with larger rivals, Hong Kong as part of the world’s second largest economy and a nuclear armed military superpower has some distinct advantages over the Republic of Venice in its final centuries.
Hong Kong’s reunification with the rest of China offered it opportunities to transform itself from a potentially isolated city within a moribund British empire into one of many Chinese super-cities that each have a cooperative role to play within the large and harmonious framework that is the People’s Republic of China.
The one country – two systems model has allowed Hong Kong to receive the economic and military protection of being part of a global superpower whilst also retaining its unique Republic of Venice like local characteristics.
It is therefore nothing short of absurd that short sighted and non-thinking protesters should wish to violently drag Hong Kong towards a fate that befell the Republic of Venice due to long term external pressures and aggression. Whilst the Republic of Venice was murdered, Hong Kong is looking ever more suicidal.
If it is really the dream of some in Hong Kong to be an isolated and ignored entity living off a combination of limited internal productivity and western “charity” (foreign “charity” that as always will come at the expense of political and cultural sovereignty), then such people are not only lawless but are clueless. No country in the world can or would ever seek to commit acts of aggression against China in a fight to restore Hong Kong to its erstwhile status as part of a British Empire which no longer exists.
To imagine Hong Kong as some sort of semi-independent western satellite state would be to presuppose that in the 21st century, the nations of the world are prepared to defy law and logic in recognising not one, not two but three Chinas.
As such, whilst China would never allow foreign aggression against any part of its territory including Hong Kong, China cannot help if Hong Kong starts to be seen as an ageing tiger of yesterday in the eyes of foreign investors. Whilst Lee Kuan Yew left a legacy in his city-state of Singapore which taught future generations the importance of pragmatism and economic evolution, the protesters of Hong Kong have not learned either lesson, nor have they learned properly from the positive world changing Reform and Opening Up of the mainland.
Hong Kong will surely not “fall” to a modern day Napoleon, but part of Hong Kong’s own frenzied population seems intent on sinking Hong Kong’s economic fortunes even more rapidly than today’s economically unimportant museum like city of Venice is literally sinking before the eyes of the world.
通宝推：决不倒戈,桥上,家园 现在你知道为什么英国特朗普能上台了吧 “让英国再次伟大”，呵呵。这些西方内部的大外宣支部，都在被排挤中，你以为这些年“大撒币”是白撒的么。