主题：【原创】为什么欧洲车操控好？ -- 晨枫
价格比保时捷法拉利便宜不少，但是跑的更快。
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N%C3%BCrburgring_lap_times
更快的那几款车虽然号称是量产车，一般人恐怕是有钱也买不到的。
Lap times
Production vehicles
Length ↓ Time ↓ Vehicle ↓ Driver ↓ Date ↓ Notes ↓
20,832 m (68,350 ft) 6:48 Radical SR8LM Michael Vergers 19 August 2009 Radical Sportscars[1][2]
20,832 m (68,350 ft) 6:55 Radical SR8 Michael Vergers 28 September 2005 Radical Sportscars[3] Timed by Sport Auto [4][5][6]
20,832 m (68,350 ft) 7:11.5 Gumpert Apollo Speed Florian Gruber 13 August 2009 Sport auto (Germany) (Article)
20,832 m (68,350 ft) 7:22.1 Dodge Viper ACR (2009) Tom Coronel 18 August 2008 Chrysler conducted test,[7] Motor Trend confirmed, Hardcore Package option, suspension adjustments,[8] aero adjustments, video confirmed, driver: Tom Coronel (NED).
20,832 m (68,350 ft) 7:24.3 Maserati MC12 Marc Basseng August 2008 Evo Magazine conducted test
20,832 m (68,350 ft) 7:24.7 Pagani Zonda F Clubsport Marc Basseng August 2008 Evo Magazine conducted test
20,832 m (68,350 ft) 7:25.3 Ferrari Enzo Ferrari Marc Basseng August 2008 Evo Magazine conducted test
20,832 m (68,350 ft) 7:26.4 Chevrolet Corvette C6 ZR1 (2009) Jim Mero 27 June 2008 General Motors conducted test,[9][10][11] base specification car with stock tires and non-stock safety equipment, video confirmed. Driver: Jim Mero (GM Engineer), June 2008. Also, Sport Auto[12] published results of Horst von Saurma obtaining 7:38 on Michelin tires.
20,832 m (68,350 ft) 7:26.70 Nissan GT-R (2010) Toshio Suzuki 23 April 2009 Nissan Motors conducted test. Completed on standard Dunlop run flat tires.[13]
20,832 m (68,350 ft) 7:27.82 Pagani Zonda F Clubsport Marc Basseng September 2007 Pagani conducted test,[14][15] semi-wet conditions[citation needed]
20,600 m (68,000 ft) 7:28.71 Porsche Carrera GT Walter Rhrl 2 July 2004 Autobild (07/04) [15]
20,832 m (68,350 ft) 7:29.03 Nissan GT-R (2009) Toshio Suzuki 17 April 2008 Nissan Motors conducted test,[16][17][18]. The test used a stock GT-R with stock tires. Video confirmed.
20,832 m (68,350 ft) 7:32.02 Porsche 911 GT2 (2008) Walter Rhrl 2007 Porsche conducted test,[19] R compound tires used.[citation needed]
20,832 m (68,350 ft) 7:33.6 Koenigsegg CCX Marc Basseng August 2008 Evo Magazine conducted test
20,600 m (68,000 ft) 7:34 Koenigsegg CCR Horst von Saurma 17 October 2005 Sport Auto (03/2006)[20]
7:34 Porsche 911 GT2 September 2008 Porsche conducted test,[21] stock vehicle with stock tires
20,600 m (68,000 ft) 7:35 Ruf Rt 12 Sport Auto (02/2008)[22]
7:38 Porsche 911 Turbo September 2008 Porsche conducted test,[21] stock vehicle with stock tires
7:38 Nissan GT-R Horst von Saurma Sport Auto (07/2009),[23] Dunlop tires
7:39 Porsche 911 Turbo (2010) Porsche Conducted Test [24] Stock vehicle with stock tires
7:39 F430 Scuderia Horst von Saurma Sport Auto (07/2008)[25]
20,600 m (68,000 ft) 7:40 Bugatti Veyron 16.4 'Wheels' magazine (12/2005)[citation needed]
20,600 m (68,000 ft) 7:40 Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren Klaus Ludwig AutoBild (07/2004)[citation needed]
20,600 m (68,000 ft) 7:40 Lamborghini Murcielago LP640 Giorgio Sanna Lamborghini Autobild (01/2007)
7:40 Porsche 911 GT3 997MkII Horst von Saurma Sport Auto (06/2009)[26]
7:40.6 Ford GT Markus Draper Octane Magazine[citation needed]
7:42 Porsche 911 GT3 Walter Rhrl Automobil (05/2006) Sport Auto (05/2006)
7:42.99 Chevrolet Corvette C6 Z06 Jan Magnussen 2005 General Motors,[27][28] Motor Trend confirmed
7:43 Porsche 911 GT3 RS 'Motor' magazine[citation needed]
7:44 Pagani Zonda S Horst von Saurma Sport Auto (02/2005)
7:46 Porsche 911 GT2 Horst von Saurma Sport Auto (06/2001)
7:46 Lamborgini Gallardo Superleggera Horst von Saurma Sport Auto (09/2007)[29]
7:47 Porsche 911 GT3 RS Horst von Saurma Sport Auto (08/2004)
7:47 Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano Horst von Saurma Sport Auto[30]
7:47 Lamborghini Murciélago LP640 E-gear Horst von Saurma Sport Auto (01/2007), Sport tires[citation needed]
7:49 Chevrolet Corvette C6 Z06 Horst von Saurma 22 June 2007 Sport Auto[31]
7:49.0 Porsche 911 GT2 Chris Harris November 2008 Drivers Republic[32]
7:50 BMW M3 CSL Horst von Saurma Sport Auto (08/2003)
7:50 Porsche 911 Carrera S (2009) Horst von Saurma Sport Auto (08/2008),[33] PCCB, PDK, Sport
我开的应该是08或者09的Astra，没有觉得震动和噪声可憎，我平时开的是02年的BMW330i，或者是老婆的06年Mini Cooper。
还有Acura TSX，TL，没有开过WRX或者EVO之类的变态车，个人理解他们相当于日本的muscle car，要把PP颠瘦的那种类型。
好车的概念10个人有11个定义，比较多的是绝对性能和容易上手两大路。日本跑车属于前者，德国sports sedan属于后者。Porsche属于两头兼顾，新的GTR也走这条路子，很成功，但在技术过剩上一点不落后于德国人哦。
wrx一般调的不那么夸张，除了离合比较重之外据说没啥特不能忍的地方
evo，尤其是改过的evo(原厂有350ps套件)，那可真是5000rpm以下扭矩全丢的。。。
porsche尤其是911因为屁股太重，所以反而并不太好开，看过一个911GT3跑北环的视频，每次出弯都要反打小半圈方向的。boxter这种小跑车倒是挺容易上手的
我很不喜欢这种技术过剩的东西，总觉着纯用一堆钢铁调出一个既容易上手性能又好的车才是真本事
Lotus、Renault Clio Club Sport、老Golf GTI都是这样的。
出门第一个弯差点转到对面车道上。之前一直开A4 Quattro,突然换前驱的车还真不习惯。最大的不适应是如同开一堆棉花，少了Audi那种非常SHARP的路感。
但是实际开起来也就那样，米有数据看的那么爽...Evo STi之类的神车除外...
硬弹簧 + 小阻尼是宝马的调校风格。
简单，选材不错，但是绝对没有日系豪华车饱满豪华的氛围，个人感觉比较没有诚意...
柴油机不算...
相对于保时捷法拉利来说的
在英国用Vauxhall这个牌子而已，下面的车型都一样。
相当于德国的中低档车，日本的中档车。