主题:【原创】一个批判六祖慧能的故事 -- 老平
我的中文诠释只是我个人基于下列文字的理解和转述。不能确定是否代表笛卡尔他老人家的真实想法。
But I have convinced myself that there is absolutely nothing in the world, no sky, no earth, no minds, no bodies. Does it now follow that I too do not exist? No. If I convinced myself of something [or thought anything at all] then I certainly existed. But there is a deceiver of supreme power and cunning who is deliberately and constantly deceiving me. In that case I too undoubtedly exist, if he is deceiving me; and let him deceive me as much as he can, he will never bring it about that I am nothing so long as I think that I am something. So, after considering everything very thoroughly, I must finally conclude that the proposition, I am, I exist, is necessarily true whenever it is put forward by me or conceived in my mind. (AT VII 25; CSM II 16–17)
从这段文字中我看出,第一,笛卡尔在前文已经论证了“心外无物”,进而思考“心”(观察主题)是否存在。(这个问题本身已经走进了经典哲学悖论的大门,就是一个陈述不能包括这个陈述本身。这个话题探讨下去会引入对“真实”的论证,那个要单独一片论文来详谈了);第二,上帝存在。
我继续认为笛卡尔基于以上两点,作出如下推论:观察者没办法主观上否定自己的存在是因为上帝主观上承认了观察者的存在。
基于以上理解,我回复了平兄的帖子。所采用的语调并不是很严谨,但基本意思跟本贴所述是一致的。
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🙂想起笛卡尔了 白菜 字518 2010-03-05 08:33:59
🙂跟错了,帖子跑了上去。 老平 字0 2010-03-06 02:26:59
🙂笛卡尔是这样推理的? 我爱莫扎特 字202 2010-03-05 08:57:11
🙂莫兄,内详
🙂再补充两句 1 我爱莫扎特 字442 2010-03-05 09:39:31
🙂花。 马哥 字121 2010-03-05 12:13:44
🙂谢谢 2 我爱莫扎特 字704 2010-03-05 09:29:10
🙂对“我思故我在”的理解 白菜 字187 2010-03-05 09:59:29